Socialism will save us all (technology edition)

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Jack McOck
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Re: Socialism will save us all (technology edition)

Post by Jack McOck » Fri May 24, 2013 1:37 pm

myrnova wrote:They call it "social-liberism" (see Tony Blair): they say "we are leftish", but at the end of the story it is rightish moderate capitalism, introducing social inequalities and poverty.
No, seriously, point me to precisely which policies caused these riots.

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Re: Socialism will save us all (technology edition)

Post by myrnova » Fri May 24, 2013 1:42 pm

read the newspaper, mate... :roll:

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Re: Socialism will save us all (technology edition)

Post by Jack McOck » Fri May 24, 2013 1:49 pm

myrnova wrote:read the newspaper, mate... :roll:
So you're saying that you can't pin-point one evil capitalist policy to back up your claim...?

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Re: Socialism will save us all (technology edition)

Post by myrnova » Fri May 24, 2013 3:02 pm

Jack McOck wrote:
myrnova wrote:read the newspaper, mate... :roll:
So you're saying that you can't pin-point one evil capitalist policy to back up your claim...?
... unless you think the cuts in social security, social assistance and in benefits to unemployed people are something "socialist" and the riots in Stokholm have been caused because immigrants living there are evil, lazy, bad and ugly? :mrgreen:

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Re: Socialism will save us all (technology edition)

Post by Jack McOck » Fri May 24, 2013 3:14 pm

myrnova wrote:
Jack McOck wrote:
myrnova wrote:read the newspaper, mate... :roll:
So you're saying that you can't pin-point one evil capitalist policy to back up your claim...?
... unless you think the cuts in social security, social assistance and in benefits to unemployed people are something "socialist" and the riots in Stokholm have been caused because immigrants living there are evil, lazy, bad and ugly? :mrgreen:
References plus praxeological analysis, please.

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Re: Socialism will save us all (technology edition)

Post by myrnova » Fri May 24, 2013 3:17 pm

"praxi" what? 8O

:mrgreen:

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Re: Socialism will save us all (technology edition)

Post by Bean Machine » Fri May 24, 2013 3:22 pm

myrnova wrote:"praxi" what? 8O
It's what taxi drivers in training get to drive before graduating to the real deal.

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Re: Socialism will save us all (technology edition)

Post by Vivo » Fri May 24, 2013 3:29 pm

Jack McOck wrote:Companies that people are willingly giving (a shit load of) their money to are being harassed by a state from which people would like to withhold every cent. And this is supposed to be seen as a good thing?

Go Apple, go!

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APPLE was able to exist and grow in the US because of benefits derived in the US by way of education programs, loan programs, subsidy programs, technology and infrastructure investments, etc. Had they tried to grow this company in Afghanistan, they would not have had equal success. As a result, they owe their success in a large part to being able to have started this company in the US. It's part of the social contract. They benefited from that social contract - now they don't want to participate in the social contract any longer since they no longer have to depend on it to achieve their success.

http://blogs.hbr.org/cs/2013/03/taxpaye ... t_app.html

Many of the revolutionary technologies that make the iPhone and other products and services "smart" were funded by the U.S. government. Take, for instance, the Internet, GPS, touchscreen display, as well as the latest voice-activated personal assistant, Siri. And Apple did not just benefit from government-funded research activities. It also received its early stage finance from the U.S. government's Small Business Investment Company program.

Venture capitalists entered only after government funding had gotten the company to the critical proof of concept.

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Re: Socialism will save us all (technology edition)

Post by Jack McOck » Fri May 24, 2013 3:36 pm

Vivo wrote: APPLE was able to exist and grow in the US because of benefits derived in the US by way of education programs, loan programs, subsidy programs, technology and infrastructure investments, etc. Had they tried to grow this company in Afghanistan, they would not have had equal success. As a result, they owe their success in a large part to being able to have started this company in the US. It's part of the social contract. They benefited from that social contract - now they don't want to participate in the social contract any longer since they no longer have to depend on it to achieve their success.

http://blogs.hbr.org/cs/2013/03/taxpaye ... t_app.html

Many of the revolutionary technologies that make the iPhone and other products and services "smart" were funded by the U.S. government. Take, for instance, the Internet, GPS, touchscreen display, as well as the latest voice-activated personal assistant, Siri. And Apple did not just benefit from government-funded research activities. It also received its early stage finance from the U.S. government's Small Business Investment Company program.

Venture capitalists entered only after government funding had gotten the company to the critical proof of concept.
It's true, the government created everything, then private companies came and leached off it.

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Re: Socialism will save us all (technology edition)

Post by Vivo » Fri May 24, 2013 3:49 pm

myrnova wrote:
Vivo wrote:Is the United States of America a Sociopathic Country?

http://beforeitsnews.com/african-americ ... 46932.html

Apple and Corporate America's Sociopathic Behavior

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/curtis-el ... 19615.html

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http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/05 ... pple-taxes
I don't know whether the USA is socipathic or not.
You should watch this video then. It's a must see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui9C6xVp ... r_embedded

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Re: Socialism will save us all (technology edition)

Post by Vivo » Fri May 24, 2013 3:52 pm

Vivo wrote:
myrnova wrote:
Vivo wrote:Is the United States of America a Sociopathic Country?

http://beforeitsnews.com/african-americ ... 46932.html

Apple and Corporate America's Sociopathic Behavior

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/curtis-el ... 19615.html

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http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/05 ... pple-taxes
I don't know whether the USA is socipathic or not.
You should watch this video then. It's a must see. It describes the socipathic behavior of many who have posted here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui9C6xVp ... r_embedded

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Re: Socialism will save us all (technology edition)

Post by Bean Machine » Fri May 24, 2013 3:54 pm

Vivo wrote:You should watch this video then. It's a must see. It describes the socipathic behavior of many who have posted here.
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Re: Socialism will save us all (technology edition)

Post by myrnova » Fri May 24, 2013 3:55 pm

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Re: Socialism will save us all (technology edition)

Post by SuburbanThug » Fri May 24, 2013 4:03 pm

There comes a point when failure to use force is immoral. Your argument, Bean Machine, that any use of force is immoral is a False Dichotomy. Look it up.

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Re: Socialism will save us all (technology edition)

Post by Bean Machine » Fri May 24, 2013 4:16 pm

SuburbanThug wrote:There comes a point when failure to use force is immoral. Your argument, Bean Machine, that any use of force is immoral is a False Dichotomy. Look it up.
Okay, so I entered "False Dichotomy" into Google, and got this:

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Am I on the right track?

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