I Don't understand the Issues with Obamacare

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Bean Machine
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Re: I Don't understand the Issues with Obamacare

Post by Bean Machine » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:40 pm

Funk N. Furter wrote:"Feeding 11 billion people would require a different diet, which may involve eating less meat,"
Fuck that for a laugh. :lol:

Vegetarians = bitches.

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Re: I Don't understand the Issues with Obamacare

Post by Bean Machine » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:42 pm

Funk N. Furter wrote:It would be free in that you wouldn't need money for it. You would just walk into a restaurant and get fed without having to hand over money. This is a basic socialist policy. Free like the healthcare I had yesterday at the Eye Hospital. I didn't need any money. It's just provided - free.
Er... no. "Free" != "paid for by the taxpayers".

Just sayin'...

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Re: I Don't understand the Issues with Obamacare

Post by Galt » Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:34 pm

Funk N. Furter wrote:The human race. I am a socialist, ie a communist.
This is one the major crippling factors in socialist theory. All socialists ? Human race.

For socialism to not be a violent dictatorship, it requires the explicit consent of all involved. Which it will never have. Hence, even from a political standpoint, socialism fails.

This is especially true of Trotskyism, which holds that the revolution must be global in order to succeed.
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Re: I Don't understand the Issues with Obamacare

Post by Bean Machine » Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:35 pm

Funk N. Furter wrote:Technically, what you are saying is what we experts call "bullshit". There is enough food in the world to feed everyone.
Technically, you're not an expert on anything except parroting socialist drivel and spamming forums with your irrelevant links.
Its a basic fact.
No it isn't. Prove it.
Not sure what you mean by specific.
To grow food requires time and energy. These are what are known as "costs". Be specific in explaining how we would grow more food to meet the nutritional needs of the global population, and explaining what opportunity costs such an endeavor would entail.
The human race. I am a socialist, ie a communist.
... and quite the functional retard to boot, apparently. :lol:

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Re: I Don't understand the Issues with Obamacare

Post by Galt » Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:38 pm

Funk N. Furter wrote:Don't worry Galt, I'll ensure 'special treatment' for you when the revolution comes. :D
Your matinée humour fails to disguise the tyranny of your intent.

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Re: I Don't understand the Issues with Obamacare

Post by Bean Machine » Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:39 pm

Funk N. Furter wrote:
Bean Machine wrote:
Funk N. Furter wrote:"Feeding 11 billion people would require a different diet, which may involve eating less meat,"
Fuck that for a laugh. :lol:

Vegetarians = bitches.
Obviously I'm going to get a very mature level of debate from you aren't I?
Why the objection? It's common knowledge that your average vegetarian is 47'928 times more likely to suffer from chronic estrogen poisoning than your average meat-eater*.



* A fact I'm more than willing to back up with hard data once you explain how food would invariably become free in a socialist society. :lol:

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Re: I Don't understand the Issues with Obamacare

Post by Galt » Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:17 pm

Food would be free in the same way that people would be free. Liberal relativism extends not only to ontology and ethics, but also to semantics. Hence Newspeak, Funken and Marx's beard.
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Re: I Don't understand the Issues with Obamacare

Post by crofter » Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:43 pm

Bean Machine wrote:
Funk N. Furter wrote:It would be free in that you wouldn't need money for it. You would just walk into a restaurant and get fed without having to hand over money. This is a basic socialist policy. Free like the healthcare I had yesterday at the Eye Hospital. I didn't need any money. It's just provided - free.
Er... no. "Free" != "paid for by the taxpayers".

Just sayin'...
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Re: I Don't understand the Issues with Obamacare

Post by Bean Machine » Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:56 pm

crofter wrote:
Bean Machine wrote:
Funk N. Furter wrote:It would be free in that you wouldn't need money for it. You would just walk into a restaurant and get fed without having to hand over money. This is a basic socialist policy. Free like the healthcare I had yesterday at the Eye Hospital. I didn't need any money. It's just provided - free.
Er... no. "Free" != "paid for by the taxpayers".

Just sayin'...
Our little red friend kind of skipped that one.
He knows when he's beaten, he simply can't muster the integrity to admit it. :D

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Re: I Don't understand the Issues with Obamacare

Post by lowshelf » Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:04 pm

Bean Machine wrote:Be specific in explaining how we would grow more food to meet the nutritional needs of the global population, and explaining what opportunity costs such an endeavor would entail.
I think the recent reports about Tesco [UK's largest supermarket] binning 30,000 tonnes of food in six months suggests there is plenty of food to go around. I just thought I'd mention it as you're a fan of governmental incompetence and mismanagement. Oh wait, this is a corporate... Never mind.

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Re: I Don't understand the Issues with Obamacare

Post by Galt » Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:18 pm

lowshelf wrote:I think the recent reports about Tesco [UK's largest supermarket] binning 30,000 tonnes of food in six months suggests there is plenty of food to go around. I just thought I'd mention it as you're a fan of governmental incompetence and mismanagement. Oh wait, this is a corporate... Never mind.
...food which was produced by capitalism. Socialism can't produce shit. Seriously, ask an expert, and all you'll hear is "we don't do economics or wha'effah, but trust us, there'll be food aplenty, like, yo mama so fat she must live in a socialist utopia".
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Re: I Don't understand the Issues with Obamacare

Post by Bean Machine » Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:29 pm

Funk N. Furter wrote:
Bean Machine wrote:* A fact I'm more than willing to back up with hard data once you explain how food would invariably become free in a socialist society. :lol:
I have explained how it would be free. There would be no charge, like for medical treatment. This already happens in many countries in healthcare.
That's not an explanation. Try again, poindexter.

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Re: I Don't understand the Issues with Obamacare

Post by Bean Machine » Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:37 pm

Funk N. Furter wrote:The NHS is paid for by taxes, yes. But it's still free
Er, no. If it's paid for then by definition, it's not free. You new to the English language, perchance?
I didn't have to pay yesterday when I went to the hospital.
True. However, others -- hard-working citizens -- were forced to pay in order to cover your lazy, broke ass. Doesn't seem particularly fair to me. :roll:

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Re: I Don't understand the Issues with Obamacare

Post by crofter » Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:40 pm

Funk N. Furter wrote:
Bean Machine wrote:
Funk N. Furter wrote:It would be free in that you wouldn't need money for it. You would just walk into a restaurant and get fed without having to hand over money. This is a basic socialist policy. Free like the healthcare I had yesterday at the Eye Hospital. I didn't need any money. It's just provided - free.
Er... no. "Free" != "paid for by the taxpayers".

Just sayin'...
The NHS is paid for by taxes, yes. But it's still free [img]at%20the%20point%20of%20use[/img]. I didn't have to pay yesterday when I went to the hospital.
You don't pay at all, the workers pay, you are just a leech and freeloader, where's your self respect?
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Re: I Don't understand the Issues with Obamacare

Post by Galt » Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:42 pm

Funk N. Furter wrote:Explain why the economy of the USSR grew faster than the USA's, despite the handicap of being distorted by a grotesque Stalinist dictatorship.
Ever heard of market distortion?

Incidentally, during the "economic growth" you allude to, up to 10 million people died due to starvation in the USSR.

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