Things I learnt listening to Lorde

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Re: Things I learnt listening to Lorde

Post by H20nly » Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:04 pm

Machinesworking wrote:Royals is a good pop song. Pop music is fickle, there's no way to know really which song will break.
Her teeth are fine.
^ agreed.

i heard her on an interview on NPR before i heard her music. i was impressed... even more so when i found out her age. then they played Royals afterward and i was impressed all the more. way better than most pop IMO.

i also agree about Jem.

:x

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Re: Things I learnt listening to Lorde

Post by beats me » Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:25 pm

shadx312 wrote:yup

I liked the Age Of Solo album from Lettie that seemed under the rader...http://lettie.bandcamp.com/track/hero
Cool track.

Check it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwcP9R0qyBk

Way more musically interesting than Lorde. Of course the fact she played the iTunes festival (as an opener) means she isn't hurting but she also isn't top of the charts and Galt isn't starting threads about her. Maybe the fact that she's 18 puts her way past her musical prime and relevancy. :x

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Re: Things I learnt listening to Lorde

Post by regretfullySaid » Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:41 pm

18? How does she still manage to jump around at that age?
But yeah I've seen some heavy fan love on tumblr for charlie before.
I think the music should be more experimental and less re-hashy to giver her the edge she's supposed to have, though.
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Re: Things I learnt listening to Lorde

Post by knotkranky » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:08 pm

Lorde has got no depth.

I hear decent sounds, beats and lyrics, but there's nothing there.

Fiona Apple at 18, mkay.

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Re: Things I learnt listening to Lorde

Post by regretfullySaid » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:43 pm

Machinesworking wrote:...there's no way to know really which song will break.
Eh well when you have Universal behind you it's probably safe to say you have enough clout towards albums, videos, marketing radio, tv spots and misc to make sure you can't deny you know the song and hear it so many times you have to give into tapping your foot to it.

But I'm just using Lorde as the example for that. I'm not saying she doesn't deserve it. When her single before Royals came out (the video where she doesn't move her mouth except for the 'yeah' part), I watched the video 3 times in a row because I was intrigued, so I'm not hating; I got total respect for her, but there's definitely a way to know and choose which song will break when you know what ingredients it takes and the kind of money and power to make sure everyone gets overstuffed and they can't deny there's at least one ingredient in it that tastes good.

For decades there were gangsters who threatened dj's lives if they didn't give a certain artist or song airplay, of course now it doesn't have to be so brutish, but it's not that different either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pehHOqx7 ... ture=share

You know this though, I just want the innocent unsuspecting children to know that talent is only a small cog in the commercial success machine.

Ok sorry, back to Lorde's not so bad teeth.
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Re: Things I learnt listening to Lorde

Post by H20nly » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:01 pm

knotkranky wrote:Fiona Apple at 18, mkay.
8O


mkay! mkay!

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Re: Things I learnt listening to Lorde

Post by TomViolenz » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:50 pm

shadx312 wrote:
You know this though, I just want the innocent unsuspecting children to know that talent is only a small cog in the commercial success machine.
8O
I seriously hope no innocent unsuspecting children are reading the Lounge!

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Re: Things I learnt listening to Lorde

Post by knotkranky » Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:12 pm

H20nly wrote:
knotkranky wrote:Fiona Apple at 18, mkay.
8O

mkay! mkay!
I know I know, she looked gorgeous! Not so much anymore. No matter.

Lorde vs F. Apple ? ....No contest by a huge margin. Even lyrics alone- http://www.azlyrics.com/l/lorde.html _and_ http://www.azlyrics.com/a/apple.html
Not to mention production value and heart.

I think civilization's "bar of musical excellence" has dropped way too much. A Grammy nom FFS?!

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Re: Things I learnt listening to Lorde

Post by regretfullySaid » Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:12 pm

So ditto.
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Re: Things I learnt listening to Lorde

Post by Machinesworking » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:03 am

knotkranky wrote: Lorde vs F. Apple ? ....No contest by a huge margin. Even lyrics alone- http://www.azlyrics.com/l/lorde.html _and_ http://www.azlyrics.com/a/apple.html
Not to mention production value and heart.
Hardly do I ever disagree with you, but on this one I do. Royals VS all of Fiona Apples music I think is a better song. Mostly with these sort of performers I don't expect much, but Royals has both a great stripped down simplicity and the anglo sympathy for the working class bent. I don't know any of Lordes' other music, not familiar and wouldn't at all be surprised if she was a one trick pony, but from pop musicians that's all I expect, give me one good song.

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Re: Things I learnt listening to Lorde

Post by Machinesworking » Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:03 am

Also listening to her stuff more WTF is up with the Fiona Apple comparison? Fiona Apples' contemporaries IMO are more like Alanis Morissette who she completely wipes the floor with. I really don't get why Alanis Morissette got famous? That, was a tragedy.

Lorde would be closer to Portishead from that era.

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Re: Things I learnt listening to Lorde

Post by regretfullySaid » Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:23 am

Why confine her to others of just that era, though? Wouldn't it be more fair to compare her in a musical context, like Carole King or Carly Simon (songwriting, singing, piano playing, mature themes)? Maybe even Alicia Keys or Norah Jones?
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Re: Things I learnt listening to Lorde

Post by knotkranky » Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:44 am

Machinesworking wrote:
knotkranky wrote: Lorde vs F. Apple ? ....No contest by a huge margin. Even lyrics alone- http://www.azlyrics.com/l/lorde.html _and_ http://www.azlyrics.com/a/apple.html
Not to mention production value and heart.
Hardly do I ever disagree with you, but on this one I do. Royals VS all of Fiona Apples music I think is a better song. Mostly with these sort of performers I don't expect much, but Royals has both a great stripped down simplicity and the anglo sympathy for the working class bent. I don't know any of Lordes' other music, not familiar and wouldn't at all be surprised if she was a one trick pony, but from pop musicians that's all I expect, give me one good song.
All of Fiona? whoa, well sheeit, ok. I guess i just get a bunch more out of Fiona. Especially for an entire freshman record thing. Fiona has a lot of music out too. lol, I shouldn't be rough on Lorde, 'I don't feel it' is all. Don't know why I'm being selfish about it. Jon Brion is too crazy good tho. Those were 'heavy production/musician' type records imo. good stuff

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Re: Things I learnt listening to Lorde

Post by Machinesworking » Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:37 am

^^ I liked Fiona, I'm just a big fan of stripped down if you can pull it off.

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Re: Things I learnt listening to Lorde

Post by beats me » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:23 pm

I was just thinking about how these new teen darkwave (or whatever you want to call it) artists were obviously raised by their parents with a heaping helping of mod and goth music from the 80’s and 90’s. That should make you feel old if you were there, but it’s nice to hear those influences coming through today instead of everybody who is trying to jump on the rave pop bandwagon.

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