Stefan Jantschek wrote:
Did you see the video on the Abe´s site about their devs culture?
And the talk about "creating the future of music"?
So let me sum this up:
Why does almost nothing of the stuff you could see there reach the user?
Not even talks about?
What is the reason?
It´s not about specific needs or features.
But proclaiming to create the future while the product falls more and more behind the standards
of 2017´s software possibilities is some kind of strange, isn´t it?
I can't name one DAW developer that has every future leaning function in their DAW.
I can name 5 or more DAWs that have features that are future leaning the others do not have or do poorly. I can't name any developer that blogs about future functionality, that hasn't disappointed the end users by not delivering said functionality in x time frame.
There is no win for Ableton here, your ideas on what is future leaning for Live are probably not the same as mine. I like Live for live performance, so to me MainStage type patch changing would be a huge improvement, since you say you don't use Live that way maybe some non performance feature like Cubase's Note Expression or VCA faders would be a huge deal to you. If Live got more involved in integrating with other software that would be another huge deal to me you might not care about. Regardless if they have a sneak peak at future developments one of us is going to be upset. Owning Push 2 improvements there are always welcome, but those who do not couldn't care about that etc. etc.
Mostly I've stopped thinking of Live or Logic or DP etc etc. as somehow more than a tool. My workflow shouldn't and isn't anymore affected by some lack in a DAW etc. I was super excited about Bitwig before it was announced, anticipated maybe somehow the developers that left Ableton to start Bitwig were thinking just like I do about workflow etc. They don't, and they're already of course behind in developments they hinted at 3-4 years ago at their start, no web collaboration features yet, no integrated modular system built into the core....
Every DAW forum has dozens of people who think the latest version of DAW x is the beginning of the decline, the end times for said DAW. This thread has a video blog at the beginning with someone who is really happy in Cubase, that's great, but Steinberg are more than brutal when it comes to development cycles, bugs, feature issues and user complaints. Cubase Mac was crippled in terms of low latency performance, just a total CPU pig up until a few years ago, we're talking ten years of crippled. Bugs in v3 were promised in updates, then abandoned and reintroduced in v4. For years Cubase was the bug ridden DAW... but yeah it gets all the latest features...
My other DAW Digital Performer 9.12 has a new feature that renders all unarmed tracks to save CPU cycles, it's a huge project, and there are a lot of power users who have had to go back to previous versions of DP because the complexity of their setups exposes things in the update that cripple their systems. Some feel that Logic is becoming Garage Band Pro, it suffers immense scrutiny under Apple, even with some 'future' leaning features.
There is no greener grass, the unfinished songs on your hard drive are not there because of limitations in the software. People were making music with command line interfaces at one point, it's amazing how good we have it. For Chrissakes DAWs themselves are half the price they were ten years ago! Logic Pro was $799 then, same with Cubase, DP etc.
Yes, Ableton have not made us pay for a "real" upgrade, that's a good thing considering how much of the updates have been to improve Push. Makes perfect sense, but it's come at a complete upgrade cycle, and in that way I feel you. Hopefully they introduce things that excite you, but like I said, be sure that they will not introduce everything you want, no DAW will.
Oh, and rest assured they are working on a new version, there's no way they can't be. It's been forever since they charged for a software upgrade, and there are features people want that make sense for them to integrate. Poly aftertouch or something that addresses it makes sense for instance, (considering Push is poly aftertouch capable), collaboration features for sure, hopefully workflow improvements etc. etc. Personally owning Suite I sort of don't look forward to it, it's an upgrade chunk only matched by Komplete Ultimate in price.