New Apple machine with 8th Gen i7 (Mac mini) running badly

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TLW
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Re: New Apple machine with 8th Gen i7 (Mac mini) running badly

Post by TLW » Fri May 03, 2019 2:21 pm

2018/19 Macs having problems with USB audio is a known issue - there are several threads about it on RME’s forums.

It seems Apple dropped the ball, but Mojave 10.14.4 seems to fix the problems.
Live 10.1 Suite, M4L, 2014/15 MacBook Pro 15.3” Retina i7, OS Mojave 10.14.5. RME UFX, assorted synths, guitars and stuff.

chilleddreams
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Re: New Apple machine with 8th Gen i7 (Mac mini) running badly

Post by chilleddreams » Mon May 13, 2019 6:42 pm

Update from my side: I'm using an eGPU now with monitor attached to the external unit. Problems gone completely.
Mac mini 2018 i5 3 GHZ, 8 GB RAM, Sonnet eGPU
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Re: New Apple machine with 8th Gen i7 (Mac mini) running badly

Post by gunark » Mon May 13, 2019 6:57 pm

chilleddreams wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 6:42 pm
Update from my side: I'm using an eGPU now with monitor attached to the external unit. Problems gone completely.
Interesting. I do wonder if my issues stem from a second screen on a USB C port. I’d rather not have to shell out for a mostly pointless egpu for audio though.

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Re: New Apple machine with 8th Gen i7 (Mac mini) running badly

Post by chilleddreams » Tue May 14, 2019 7:00 pm

gunark wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 6:57 pm
Interesting. I do wonder if my issues stem from a second screen on a USB C port. I’d rather not have to shell out for a mostly pointless egpu for audio though.
Then give it a try w/o second monitor. A guy from Ableton support also gave me a hint to try different screen resolutions. That also helped a bit. I'm using a single 4K monitor. It seems that the built-in Intel GPU from Mac mini has problems with high resolutions or scaling. Interestingly performance was better when I set the screen resolution to maximum (unscaled 4K). But then I wasn't able to read something. :)
Mac mini 2018 i5 3 GHZ, 8 GB RAM, Sonnet eGPU
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Maschine Studio, Electribe EMX/ESX, Pulse
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Re: New Apple machine with 8th Gen i7 (Mac mini) running badly

Post by tinmanjack » Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:10 am

Have you tried this? It’s about reducing Live’s frame rate. I’m going to try it tomorrow, as I’m having dropouts if I go below 256 samples.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=230967

gunark
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Re: New Apple machine with 8th Gen i7 (Mac mini) running badly

Post by gunark » Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:37 am

tinmanjack wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:10 am
Have you tried this? It’s about reducing Live’s frame rate. I’m going to try it tomorrow, as I’m having dropouts if I go below 256 samples.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=230967
Interesting! I’ll try that, and the Spotlight tip too.

Urgh, it’s like Windows 95 audio days again.

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Re: New Apple machine with 8th Gen i7 (Mac mini) running badly

Post by [jur] » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:32 am

Someone found a trick with monitor color's profile.
Read the 1st post from this page.
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Re: New Apple machine with 8th Gen i7 (Mac mini) running badly

Post by ffangio » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:59 am

@op, did you have any luck?
I have exactly the same issue with my new i7 2018 Mini using a Focusrite Clarett 4 pre Thunderbolt through a TB3 to TB2 adapter (Apple).
Same issues with having to go to 512 samples to stop ridiculous clicking. None of my big projects will work without upping the samples even further.

Starting to think it's the adapter or just poor support for TB2 through the TB3 ports.

Had a weird one where latency on vst plugins was fine until I loaded the Access Virus Ti plugin, then the Virus was fine but all the software plugins suddenly had terrible latency. Turning off delay compensation in Live's Options menu solved the plugin latency but then the Virus became laggy. Exasperating.

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