Ableton is the worst music software ever

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Ableton is the worst music software ever

Post by Joe maddox » Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:10 am

Cuts out, freezes every HP it's touched. Cannot run a keystation88 without fritzing. Terrible for any acoustic or live performer. Obviously built for djs to mix. Save your money and buy another software company!

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Re: Ableton is the worst music software ever

Post by dna598 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:59 am

lol
ctrl + left/right = select transient

ctrl + shift + left/right = select between transients

ctrl + space = play selection

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Re: Ableton is the worst music software ever

Post by Mark Williams » Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:30 pm

Joe maddox wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:10 am
Cuts out, freezes every HP it's touched. Cannot run a keystation88 without fritzing. Terrible for any acoustic or live performer. Obviously built for djs to mix. Save your money and buy another software company!
Obviously coming from someone that cannot use a spellchecker, is in itself a rather pathetic statement.

Just because you cannot use it. or set it up, makes you terrible rather than the software. Many other musicians use it in live situations.
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Re: Ableton is the worst music software ever

Post by [jur] » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:51 pm

dna598 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:59 am
lol
I never write this, but it seems quite appropriate here: LOL indeed!
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Re: Ableton is the worst music software ever

Post by jestermgee » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:07 am

You forgot to put it in ALL CAPS. No one will take your rant seriously if you aren't shouting.

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Re: Ableton is the worst music software ever

Post by miyaru » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:54 pm

jestermgee wrote:
Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:07 am
You forgot to put it in ALL CAPS. No one will take your rant seriously if you aren't shouting.
:D LOL
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Re: Ableton is the worst music software ever

Post by Da hand » Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:49 am

jestermgee wrote:
Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:07 am
You forgot to put it in ALL CAPS. No one will take your rant seriously if you aren't shouting.
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Good one!

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Re: Ableton is the worst music software ever

Post by lowtom » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:12 am

If it's the worst then how I was able to perform my live performance sets way back in 2007 on a shitty laptop?? :mrgreen:

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Re: Ableton is the worst music software ever

Post by miyaru » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:26 am

lowtom wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:12 am
If it's the worst then how I was able to perform my live performance sets way back in 2007 on a shitty laptop?? :mrgreen:
So true, had my share of audio problems in the past. All due to settings in Windows, most of the time it is Windows related or driver related. I think Ableton Live is pretty solid!!!!
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Re: Ableton is the worst music software ever

Post by luckykat » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:01 pm

Recommend posting this on the FL Studio forum lol.

I have had moments like yours mate. CPU getting crushed, desperately trying to keep it under 100%, crashes, plugins not working well with it etc.
But then I look back to when I was using ProTools as a sound engineer a few years back & am grateful for how Ableton has enabled me to create music (2 singles released since I started in October 2020 and 48 tracks lined up) & develop much faster as a producer than I ever dreamed possible.

I haven't experimented with Live at gigs (cheers covid, you imbecile) but if deadmau5 uses it, I am confident it works.

Give it another go & use the awesome community to help you succeed! 8)

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Re: Ableton is the worst music software ever

Post by mangelajo » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:01 pm

My experience varies a lot...

on OSX it's outstanding, but my experience on windows didn't go very well. I moved to Ableton live with the idea
of escaping from Mac into PCs ... but under the same audio card (UMC404HD) ... and much higher CPU & RAM specs,
Ableton on the PC (with card native ASIO drivers) did perform horribly... I'll blame the windows ASIO subsystem?, may
be my card has crappy drivers?.....

On OSX/MAC I can work with very low buffer, and it's all quite stable (of course don't throw iZotope's Ozone on the master track :-P ),
but on windows I had to move the buffer to the maximum ...

In the end, even if I went back to Mac, I'm staying with Live because of the live-performance features and tunability that LogicX for example doesn't have...

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Re: Ableton is the worst music software ever

Post by Mark Williams » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:21 pm

mangelajo wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:01 pm
My experience varies a lot...

on OSX it's outstanding, but my experience on windows didn't go very well. I moved to Ableton live with the idea
of escaping from Mac into PCs ... but under the same audio card (UMC404HD) ... and much higher CPU & RAM specs,
Ableton on the PC (with card native ASIO drivers) did perform horribly... I'll blame the windows ASIO subsystem?, may
be my card has crappy drivers?.....

On OSX/MAC I can work with very low buffer, and it's all quite stable (of course don't throw iZotope's Ozone on the master track :-P ),
but on windows I had to move the buffer to the maximum ...

In the end, even if I went back to Mac, I'm staying with Live because of the live-performance features and tunability that LogicX for example doesn't have...
Thats probably more to do with your cards drivers, writing dedicated drivers isnt Behringers strong point.
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Re: Ableton is the worst music software ever

Post by mangelajo » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:04 am

Mark Williams wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:21 pm

Thats probably more to do with your cards drivers, writing dedicated drivers isnt Behringers strong point.
Yeah, I was under that suspicion.

Any good experiences with cards + Ableton in windows?

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Re: Ableton is the worst music software ever

Post by Mark Williams » Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:31 pm

I use a Scarlett 18i20 2nd gen with no issues other than making sure its on its own USB port, not via a hub. many variations of the Scarlett range makes at least 1 that will fit your needs/budget.
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Re: Ableton is the worst music software ever

Post by The_Subject » Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:03 pm

[quote"Mark Williams" post_id=1787960 time=1614108071 user_id=266959]

Any good experiences with cards + Ableton in windows?
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I used Novation Nio 2:4 for a long time (win7-win10) bit dated now and it took a beating, but was really solid, no issues and still runs.
I replaced it was the Novation Audiohub 2:4 - but I did find I often had troubles opening it in ableton.
Generally I've always found Novation reliable with the one above exception.

I'm now using the MPC One as my audio interface and it seems really good (at that, although I'm struggling with it as a controller/standalone/other stuff a bit)

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