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 Post subject: Re: IK Multimedia + Ableton Live = Crashfest..
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:07 pm 

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zeepster wrote:
Exactly this problem since god knows when. I hate that i have to use other plugins because T-Racks are a ticking timebomb in Live arrangements.


I urge you, and anyone else having problems in Live with IKM plugins, to contact their technical support again. At the moment it seems they are listening again, trying to tackle this problem. It would be sweet to have this fixed once and for all.


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 Post subject: Re: IK Multimedia + Ableton Live = Crashfest..
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:05 pm 

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Good news!
Apart from 64bit support the crashbug in Live will also be fixed!

Brian @ IK Multimedia (when asked about the crashbug) wrote:
We have worked closely with Ableton to address this.
The upcoming update will be fully compatible with Ableton Live.

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 Post subject: Re: IK Multimedia + Ableton Live = Crashfest..
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:17 pm 

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Yeah, just noticed that too :D

Excellent! (Finally.)


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 Post subject: Re: IK Multimedia + Ableton Live = Crashfest..
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:20 pm 

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Ohhhhh!!! Great to hear such news!
I was starting to become mad :evil: with all the crashes I am having presently (I am working on a project with 2 instances of Sampletank in Live 8 ) :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: IK Multimedia + Ableton Live = Crashfest..
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:37 pm 

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That's fantastic news.

I don't suppose any dates were mentioned?

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 Post subject: Re: IK Multimedia + Ableton Live = Crashfest..
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:25 am 

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zeepster wrote:
Good news!
Apart from 64bit support the crashbug in Live will also be fixed!

Brian @ IK Multimedia (when asked about the crashbug) wrote:
We have worked closely with Ableton to address this.
The upcoming update will be fully compatible with Ableton Live.


Thank you for posting this. Right now I'm trying to use my IKMM Amp sims in Live 8.2.2 and it is one crash after another.


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 Post subject: Re: IK Multimedia + Ableton Live = Crashfest..
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:21 pm 

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Still no sign of a new version on the IK downloads page :(

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 Post subject: Re: IK Multimedia + Ableton Live = Crashfest..
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:41 pm 

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crumhorn wrote:
Still no sign of a new version on the IK downloads page :(


If it's any consolation, I picked up ACID PRO 7 a while back, just in case ableton never get around to fixing Live. I'm real tired of hanging in there. Anyway, first IK Plugin I loaded in ACID crashed the host immediately.


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 Post subject: Re: IK Multimedia + Ableton Live = Crashfest..
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:16 pm 

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crumhorn wrote:
Still no sign of a new version on the IK downloads page :(


They're up now. I'm in my IK A/C ...

''AmpliTube 3 3.5.1 14-04-2011 Includes Custom Shop, new models, interface enhancements and 64-bit compatibility''

There's a FREE Version as well.


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 Post subject: Re: IK Multimedia + Ableton Live = Crashfest..
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:38 pm 

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Is T-Racks also updated?

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 Post subject: Re: IK Multimedia + Ableton Live = Crashfest..
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:52 pm 

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zeepster wrote:
Is T-Racks also updated?


All T-Racks are Dated 16-07-2010


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 Post subject: Re: IK Multimedia + Ableton Live = Crashfest..
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:08 pm 

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The Philosopher King wrote:
zeepster wrote:
Is T-Racks also updated?


All T-Racks are Dated 16-07-2010

Thanks for looking man.

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 Post subject: Re: IK Multimedia + Ableton Live = Crashfest..
PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:37 am 

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Still no news for Sampletank though :?: :(


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 Post subject: Re: IK Multimedia + Ableton Live = Crashfest..
PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:39 pm 

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Just sent them a support ticket with definite reproducible bug. Hopefully I'll get some new information.

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 Post subject: Re: IK Multimedia + Ableton Live = Crashfest..
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:19 pm 

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Here's a tip worth trying:

I managed to (completely?) circumvent the annoying and persistent "crash when looping a timespan in arrangement" Sampletank bug in Live. Again, I haven't used IK stuff in a while because of the unstable nature of it, but I got an idea to try this, and it seems to make it more stable indeed.

I used jBridge (http://jstuff.wordpress.com/jbridge/) in between Live and Sampletank, without doing any actual bit conversion. It's a plugin to bridge 32 bit plugins to 64 bit, and also the other way around, but you can also instantiate plugins without any actual bit conversion in between (in this case, just using 32bit <--> 32bit). In other words, I wanted to see whether Sampletank plays nicer when it doesn't have to talk to Live directly :), using something small and transparent between them -- and yes, at least as far as my example crash set is concerned, it stopped crashing immediately.

(Edit: I also think this is further proof that there is an actual problem in the way Sampletank communicates with Live, and not in some arbitrary part of this system.)

Also, the recently released free Amplitube stuff does not crash in the same way the older ones did. I hope IK indeed gets around to fixing this in their whole lineup, no matter how crappy their actual customer support is.


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