Hi everyone, I've been dealing with what I think it's a major bug or flaw in Ableton Live, for YEARS!, I've been in contact with Ableton people, which are great and fast, but this is a bug they apparently can't repair?! So that got me curious, cause the only reason a software developer won't take care of a problem is because there isn't enough people complaining right?
So here it is: did you ever noticed your mix changing in subtle (or massive!) ways while listening to your song from beginning to end in Ableton Live? if yes then there's a reason for that, your plugins may A. not be following automations properly B. adding & following automations of their own C. turning on that wonderfully UNIQUE feature that is the BACK TO ARRANGEMENT button...
I have 3 exemples with 3 different MAJOR plugin developpers: Mc DSP, Soundtoys, EMI Abbey Road.
If you take lets say the McDSP 6030 compressor and put it on a track with say a 1176 preset, copy paste some audio (like a 1 bar loop) then check your automations, now every pasted audio has changed your preset from 1176 to the 357 preset! btw this doesn't happen if you put this plugin FIRST in the chain.
With EMI eq's SOMETIMES they just won't follow automation at all, but WON'T turn the Back to Arrangement button red either! so you're pretty much in the dark. What about if you just got 1 db boost automated for the bridge?? do you really have time to double check every single automation while mixing and bouncing? cause I don't...
With Soundtoys automation is just mayhem, the back to Arrangement Button turns red either all the time, or randomly.
With a Mc DSP EQ is even more strange, cause when watching the plugin parameters follow automation sometimes you'll think it's not, visually, but you can still theneq at work!!
So I mean, with little boosts and cuts automated here and there you might not even realize that your mix it's not going exactly as planned due to this bug, so maybe that's why not much people realize how bad this is. But here's the thing, I believe this is an Ableton problem, this plugins i'm talking about are major, have been aware of this problem for months or even years, and aren't doing anything about it, why? cause this just happens in Live and I think it's related to how Live handles automation and that BACK TO ARRANGEMENT NIGHTMARE which is completely useless to me, I'm a score/soundtrack composer and producer.
I asked Ableton for an option to turn the Back to Arrangement on and off, they say they don't know if this is going to happen.... So I'm asking everyone here who can help with this matter to talk about any similar problems you might have, with maybe other plugins, so that a solution may arise at some point and I can finnally CONCENTRATE ON MAKING MUSIC, I though this was Live's purpose in the first place and why I moved from Pro Tools to Ableton.
Thanks for reading.