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 Post subject: selling Ableton live 10 suite full $420
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:08 pm 

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I'm selling my Ableton Live 10 Suite for $420.
This includes the Max Live and also all the other additional Sounds purchased from Ableton Live.


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 Post subject: Re: Ableton live 10 suite full $450
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:46 pm 

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bumppp


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 Post subject: Re: selling Ableton live 10 suite full $450
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:16 pm 

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bumpp


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 Post subject: Re: selling Ableton live 10 suite full $450
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:59 am 

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interested


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 Post subject: Re: selling Ableton live 10 suite full $450
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:38 pm 

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 Post subject: Re: selling Ableton live 10 suite full $450
PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:38 pm 

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Bump. unable to send money to him due to PayPal security blocking my payment. I called and they said everything is in order on both ends... system just won't allow me to do it. Good luck to others. Patient and prompt. Would buy from him.


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 Post subject: Re: selling Ableton live 10 suite full $450
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:26 pm 

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newwave10, check your PMs. thanks :)


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 Post subject: Re: selling Ableton live 10 suite full $450
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:32 pm 

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bump...


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 Post subject: Re: selling Ableton live 10 suite full $420
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:08 am 

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Any particular reason why you're bumping a thread on April 3rd after the paypal transaction between you and I cleared on March 28th? I am now not seeing the license that you supposedly transferred to me in my Ableton account. You have my number and my email, please feel free to explain to me what the deal is, although I'm confident I already have it figured out.


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 Post subject: Re: selling Ableton live 10 suite full $420
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:32 pm 

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watch out for this guy everyone, he's a scam artist and has things posted for sale in multiple forums including this one. It's a clever scam he's got going on, I'll give him that.


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 Post subject: Re: selling Ableton live 10 suite full $420
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:26 pm 

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Kyle Andrew wrote:
watch out for this guy everyone, he's a scam artist and has things posted for sale in multiple forums including this one. It's a clever scam he's got going on, I'll give him that.


Dang, hope Paypal got your money back?

I would recommend to others buying on forums to be weary of sellers who don't participate in the forum community. ie... they have few or no posts or their past posts are questionable.


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 Post subject: Re: selling Ableton live 10 suite full $420
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:53 pm 

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McAnix wrote:
Kyle Andrew wrote:
watch out for this guy everyone, he's a scam artist and has things posted for sale in multiple forums including this one. It's a clever scam he's got going on, I'll give him that.


Dang, hope Paypal got your money back?

I would recommend to others buying on forums to be weary of sellers who don't participate in the forum community. ie... they have few or no posts or their past posts are questionable.


Yep yep, lesson learned. Am working with paypal now. Here's a timeline just so everyone knows what to watch for:

3/28 contacted seller, sent funds via paypal
3/29 confirmed seller contacted Ableton and had license transferred.
4/3 seller retrieves funds from paypal
4/4 seller contacts Ableton, says I didn't pay him and to give him his license back. Ableton says "OK", and gives it back.

Honestly I would be vary wary about buying Ableton used at all from anyone. I don't blame Ableton for this, they're not a bank. But apparently all it takes is one message from the
original license holder and they'll just transfer the license back to the original owner, no questions asked.


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 Post subject: Re: selling Ableton live 10 suite full $420
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:03 pm 

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poetic justice would be Ableton takes your PayPal receipt and reassigns the license back to you. scam artist be damned.

:x


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 Post subject: Re: selling Ableton live 10 suite full $420
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:39 pm 

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H20nly wrote:
poetic justice would be Ableton takes your PayPal receipt and reassigns the license back to you. scam artist be damned.

:x


it would, but that won't happen. from what I understand Ableton will reassign the license to the original owner at any point in time, all he/she has to do is claim that it was never paid for and 'poof' there it goes. that's why ill never buy any DAWs or plugins 'used' ever again, the risk is just way too great.


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 Post subject: Re: selling Ableton live 10 suite full $420
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:15 am 

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I don't understand something, I have done 2 license transfers and I was told by Ableton that once the license is transferred it is done, only the new license holder can transfer it back. You can find that in this link:

https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/artic ... a-new-user

So perhaps you where contacted by people posing to be Ableton? If Ableton did indeed transfer the license back without your permission then they would be breaking their own contract and I doubt this is the case, however I'm not fully aware of the details.


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