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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:28 pm 

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I bought Live 8 Suite in order to get the Live 9 upgrade for free, but I don't see any option to buy push that does not include live 9 price. Is there any information on this?


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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:49 am 

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What happened to the Push steel cover? I can't find it on the site anymore. Really hope it will be available on release.


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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:53 am 

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Lye wrote:
I bought Live 8 Suite in order to get the Live 9 upgrade for free, but I don't see any option to buy push that does not include live 9 price. Is there any information on this?


Me too... Interesting...


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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:07 pm 

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Same here!
Should there be an option to just buy push?


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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:55 pm 

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I am guessing you just go ahead and buy it. Anywhere. Without needing an 'upgrade option'.


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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:45 pm 

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-.- I was to understand that we would get a discount.


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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:44 pm 

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Lye wrote:
-.- I was to understand that we would get a discount.


You can probably find a much better discount at a local store. They are giving a 50$ discount to people upgrading from live8 suite to l9suite+push, which would put it at 550$. Right now you can go pre-order on guitarcenter with a coupon for 510$, and presumably even lower whenever they put out a 20% off coupon

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speaking of which, anyone ever deal with eastcoastmusic.com? They currently have the pre-order for 475


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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:23 am 

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As of right now in order for push you can't load a drum rack that has been nested into an instrument rack.
can you comment on if this is the way it will stay?

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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:20 pm 

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I really like that the Push can change intervals
intervals in 5ths would be awesome
a 4x4 style grid is what me and allot of other are used to playing
that are not keyboard players.
Chromatic and diatonic it places the notes in really nice positions
plus the root will always be in the same relative place

an instead of having all the redundant notes have the progression split
so the first 4 columns ascend in order to the top of the grid
the the next 4 columns continue and ascend in order to the top of the grid.

not only would this allow access to allot more notes at one time
it would be easy for users to create split racks in order to play multiple
instruments from one track.
This would be relatively huge in my opinion.

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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:40 pm 

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ezelkow1 wrote:
You can probably find a much better discount at a local store. They are giving a 50$ discount to people upgrading from live8 suite to l9suite+push, which would put it at 550$. Right now you can go pre-order on guitarcenter with a coupon for 510$, and presumably even lower whenever they put out a 20% off coupon.
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speaking of which, anyone ever deal with eastcoastmusic.com? They currently have the pre-order for 475
For many of us in USA, we'll be taxed on GuitarCenter.com's orders, so it will really be $550-ish with a 15% coupon. I saw a week or so ago eastcoastmusic.com had Push on pre-order for less than $450, but I was sketched out by their crappy website, listing 2 different phone numbers, & no call-back from leaving a message. So I took advanatage of ZZsounds price-matching. B)

Knowing how AKAI's drum pads wear out after real use, I would not pay $600. $500 seems OK, esp if you can sell off the Live Intro license. $450 split into 3 payments was a bargain.

chapelier fou wrote:
-Is it VERY bright ? (can it be used when gigging outside, under the sun ?)

(Asking before starting my own midibox controller, because i've always been unhappy with the 'official' products and their inability to be programmed (have to run a pretty messy max patch to have my 2 launchpads working as i want them to work). I always thought that musicians have their own workflow, and hardware should adapt to musicians, not the contrary.
thank you)
IIRC from watching one of the first vids, Push can run via USB power only, but the LEDs will be brighter if you use external power/mains. From my own hacking research from wanting to build my own controller, LEDs do dim over time, so I would use in a dimmed setting as much as you can, & turn up the brightness only when needed. & turn off when not in use.

Velocity & aftertouch are very hard to do in home-brew controllers. I wanted to build a monome/APC that could do those, & Push is it, so now I don't have to bother. I could use more knobs/sliders, so I may end up using all those microcontrollers laying around for that though.

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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:18 pm 

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re8 wrote:
ezelkow1 wrote:
You can probably find a much better discount at a local store. They are giving a 50$ discount to people upgrading from live8 suite to l9suite+push, which would put it at 550$. Right now you can go pre-order on guitarcenter with a coupon for 510$, and presumably even lower whenever they put out a 20% off coupon.
-edit
speaking of which, anyone ever deal with eastcoastmusic.com? They currently have the pre-order for 475
For many of us in USA, we'll be taxed on GuitarCenter.com's orders, so it will really be $550-ish with a 15% coupon. I saw a week or so ago eastcoastmusic.com had Push on pre-order for less than $450, but I was sketched out by their crappy website, listing 2 different phone numbers, & no call-back from leaving a message. So I took advanatage of ZZsounds price-matching.



same, thats why I ended up doing the pricematch+discount at music123. Didnt know zzsounds also did one, however i did email eastcoastmusic and got a response a day later, so there is someone there


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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:50 pm 

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su-Y wrote:
I have a couple of questions:

When will Push approximately ship? I am planning to preorder and moving to another country in the beginning of April ( I live in London currently ), and I would like to know would it be wise to order it to my current home adress.

Also, what about the cover/stand? As I understood it does not come with Push by default, so I wonder will it also be available to preorder on March 5

Thanks in advance!

Also, using the opportunity I would like to thank you for amazing communication with the community, this thread was very informative and interesting!


Same question on a dedicated push stand ala maschine ? Any comment on that ?

Thanks a lot


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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:15 pm 

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Lye wrote:
I bought Live 8 Suite in order to get the Live 9 upgrade for free, but I don't see any option to buy push that does not include live 9 price. Is there any information on this?


Me too... Interesting...


Okay, now I am really confused :? :? :?

If I upgrade to Live 8 Suite it's £203

Therefore with Free Live 9 Suite Upgrade, still £203 for Live 9 Suite

If I buy Live 9 Suite upgrade directly it is £299

If i buy Live 9 Suite and Push it's £688

Therefore Push is £688 minus £299 = £389

So by that reasoning if I buy the Live 8 Suite upgrade and then Push my total should be: £389 + 203 = £592

Yet there doesn't seem to be an option for this!

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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:19 pm 

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Hi There,

It appears that you can load VST instruments in Push using Racks?

Can VST Plug in Effects be loaded and controlled in the effect section of Push?

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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:32 am 

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wildcon wrote:
Hi There,

It appears that you can load VST instruments in Push using Racks?

Can VST Plug in Effects be loaded and controlled in the effect section of Push?

Cheers


Yes but they also have to be contained in a rack and saved in the user folder in places. They will then appear in the push browser under audio effect racks/ other.

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