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If I'm playing in scale mode, I'm getting lots of channel pressure events in the 50 range just by trying to gently sustain a note. For patches that use aftertouch for stuff like vibrato, trying to sustain a note without vibrato is almost impossible.

We need a way to set a lower threshold on aftertouch on Push so that channel pressure doesn't kick in until we press hard enough.

It's mad isn't it, I just looked and I have huge amounts of aftertouch being recorded when I play the surface.

Yes! so necessary.

Right now Mapulator is a good solution but overboard. Native Kontrol has a script for it somewhere but you have to be in User mode. Any other ideas?

Stray from Native Kontrol also made a M4L device called AT_Scaler. Search for it on the web and then just stick it in your device chain before your VST. Works great.

Stray is cool.

Yep, a native definable threshold is much needed. Right now aftertouch is almost unusable.

I think this is desperately needed too. It's near impossible to play synths that modulates sound on aftertouch. If I leave my finger on the pad to hold a chord I have a VERY narrow pressure range between note-off and aftertouch.

Can someone from Ableton let us know if they consider this a problem or if we're doing something wrong.

Bucephalus wrote:I think this is desperately needed too. It's near impossible to play synths that modulates sound on aftertouch. If I leave my finger on the pad to hold a chord I have a VERY narrow pressure range between note-off and aftertouch.

Here's a great M4L solution, http://www.subaqueousmusic.com/producti ... aftertouch. It works perfectly for me.

the sub aqueous device is where it's at.

Leave Trace wrote: Here's a great M4L solution, http://www.subaqueousmusic.com/producti ... aftertouch. It works perfectly for me.

Thanks so much and cudos to the creator of this M4L solution

great workaround but for those that don't own M4L something needs to be done about this. Thankfully, i just upgraded to suite.

URG! I'm pretty frustrated about this... almost return Push frustrated. I just got Push and while in many ways I can see it being pretty amazing, I find it pretty much impossible to use in it's current form. Who let this out of the lab this way? Hitting a note always triggers aftertouch? Who would want this? I mean, it flies in the face of what aftertouch is: a way to modulate your note with pressure AFTER the initial note strike.

I don't own MFL, and I don't intend to. Has Ableton made any statement as to fixing this bug?

I made a utility to turn aftertouch off or scale it, it also gives you a 'modwheel' controller, so you can see it from push's device panel.

Download here > http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/1854/putility

Just put an instance of it before any instrument you're having aftertouch issues with.

Martyn wrote:I made a utility to turn aftertouch off or scale it, it also gives you a 'modwheel' controller, so you can see it from push's device panel.

Download here > http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/1854/putility

Just put an instance of it before any instrument you're having aftertouch issues with.

Right, and thanks for that. I just got a response from Ableton and it seems that their official take on this bug is, "Well our users developed a work around, so suck it and upgrade to Suite."

Not quite what I wanted to hear after buying a $600 controller.