What is the Swing knob for on Push?

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What is the Swing knob for on Push?

Post by djadonis206 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:24 am

I get you use it when you're repeating notes. But other than that? Seems like a waste of space if it doesn't affect the swing of clips and recorded notes.

I think I'm missing something?
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Re: What is the Swing knob for on Push?

Post by Fugazi81 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:15 am

djadonis206 wrote:I think I'm missing something?
Hi,

the "Swing" knob only affects clips and recorded notes if you hit "Quantize" afterwards.




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Re: What is the Swing knob for on Push?

Post by re:dream » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:32 am

I guess we should be thankful that you don't have to browse the 'groove pool' on push 8)

I think we should ask for the Push approach to swing to be expanded to all of Live.

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Re: What is the Swing knob for on Push?

Post by djadonis206 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:15 am

Fugazi81 wrote:
djadonis206 wrote:I think I'm missing something?
Hi,

the "Swing" knob only affects clips and recorded notes if you hit "Quantize" afterwards.




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Curious. I've tried that with recording synth parts, no swing. It also affects the whole clip?
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Re: What is the Swing knob for on Push?

Post by Evengy » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:30 am

djadonis206 wrote:
Fugazi81 wrote:
djadonis206 wrote:I think I'm missing something?
Hi,

the "Swing" knob only affects clips and recorded notes if you hit "Quantize" afterwards.




Have fun.
Curious. I've tried that with recording synth parts, no swing. It also affects the whole clip?

adjust swing, press record and play! the swing amount will be recorded as midi directly to the selected sample. i never tried it to quantize afterwards but maybe today.
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Re: What is the Swing knob for on Push?

Post by Fugazi81 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:39 am

djadonis206 wrote:
Curious. I've tried that with recording synth parts, no swing. It also affects the whole clip?

Yes it affects the whole "selected" clip, everything that is "quantizable" (warp markers, notes)

Check the Quantize options on Push
hold down the "Quantize" button, there you have all quantize options, play with it until you get the results you like.


Ps:

I use the "set-swing-and-quantize" combi exclusive, because i didn´t even know you could use quantize while your are recording 8)

Thanks for the tip!

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Re: What is the Swing knob for on Push?

Post by Martyn » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:43 am

The Finn wrote:I guess we should be thankful that you don't have to browse the 'groove pool' on push 8)

I think we should ask for the Push approach to swing to be expanded to all of Live.
I really wish we COULD acces the groove pool from push, I use it extensively. It'd be pretty useful to have both, or even just the option to set a default groove template from the pool.

I've been finding myself nudging notes and beats ahead or behind time quite a bit and it would be nice to be able to save that as a template AND be able to apply it to other clips from Push.

It's nice to have the swing setting residing in the Push hardware, but I'd like to still get at the groove engine in the software once clips have been recorded.

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Re: What is the Swing knob for on Push?

Post by re:dream » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:09 pm

Martyn wrote:
or even just the option to set a default groove template from the pool.

Yes

And for Live too. Default groove template for all new clips

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Re: What is the Swing knob for on Push?

Post by djadonis206 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:13 am

Call me slow but I'm not hearing it.

Quantize enabled
Swing set to 60%
1/16 Quantize to
100% quantize notes
1/16 record quantize [on]

I play notes in, don't see any swing or hear it

However, when I use the repeat function it records the swing and I can hear it and see it.

Curious what's going on here
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Re: What is the Swing knob for on Push?

Post by djadonis206 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:15 am

I even extract groove to see if the notes are shifted and it's straight quantized to the 16th
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Re: What is the Swing knob for on Push?

Post by Fugazi81 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:45 am

djadonis206 wrote: Quantize enabled
Swing set to 60%
1/16 Quantize to
100% quantize notes
1/16 record quantize [on]
Hi, i just tried your settings and *dada* they are working 8O

Ok, you have set your quantize options *hold* "Quantize". To quantize your clip/notes with your settings you have to *push* "Quantize" afterwards.

*hold Quantize* = enter Quantize menu
*push Quantize* = quantize your clip/notes (Push shows you the message "Quantized to : 1/16, 100%" on the display)

That´s how i quantized my clip with your settings. 8)

Maybe you have to check your "Quantize-Preferences (cntr +shift +u). Even though i set my options with the push hardware the setting in my Quantize-Preferences differs from them. (e. my Push settings = 1/16 - Quantize Preferences = 1/32)

I hope this helps...

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Re: What is the Swing knob for on Push?

Post by Fugazi81 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:37 pm

Hi,

maybe a video is better than my sh*tty wrinting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... qReabDCQxw

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Re: What is the Swing knob for on Push?

Post by djadonis206 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:41 pm

Thanks

So what you're saying is, play the notes in and then just press the quantized button. The whole, or just the played notes will be swung?
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Re: What is the Swing knob for on Push?

Post by djadonis206 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:07 pm

Okay, you helped me figure it out!!!

I was thinking swing was applied in real time, but it's applied after the fact

Fugazi, thanks again
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Re: What is the Swing knob for on Push?

Post by Fugazi81 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:03 pm

You´re welcome. Glad it worked.

You could also *hold* the "Quantize" and while you are doing, push a pad
(it seems it´s only working in drumrack mode) to quantize just one note lane at a time (e. only the hi - hats etc.) . 8)


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