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Re: Push 2 Scales

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:30 am
by pr_sounddesigns
starving student wrote:anyone ?
Is possible only in user mode (yet), or hack the script...maybe later...

Re: Push 2 Scales

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:53 pm
by starving student
have you emailed support about it and what did they say?

Re: Push 2 Scales

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:27 am
by pr_sounddesigns
starving student wrote:have you emailed support about it and what did they say?
yes...but I get only this answer: No sorry.


Reality...:

Push1 (settings: only sequential mode in Normal mode) (NOT AVAIBLE IN PUSH 2 !!!!!)
Push2 (in limited User mode only - chromatic))

Push1 and Push2 in Normal mode (not User) custom scales: only by Python script (not official supported)

in Push2: I find out this solution, in User mode:
Kontakt 5, etc:
YOU =) >> Your Push 2 >> your MAC or PC (> Ableton Live settings MIDI> User mode in and out )) >> Create MIDI Channel (Kontakt5, etc) >> MIDI Rack Fx > 64xMIDI Pitch Shift Fx (2 shifting every note/pad (<=64)) (in MIDI Rack Fx) > create MIDI Ch (one empty MIDI 'LED' channel > Channel OUT=Ableton Push 2 User Mode - And You Get LED feedback

Here is Two (relative four) Scale (or what you want,Chromatic Without Assymmetric Note Duplications,etc.) but only in limited user mode :/

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Re: Push 2 Scales

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:32 pm
by pr_sounddesigns
I can you send the (only in user mode) channelstrip preset in private if you need it.

Re: Push 2 Scales

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:05 am
by Stromkraft
tedlogan wrote:On Push 1, if you held shift+scale, you could change the layout of the pads completely, whether in chromatic or scale made. For example, you could have the bottom row be sequential all the way across - 8 semitones in sequence, then the first pad from row 2 would be the 9th semitone after that, and so on.
This is not how Push 1 works with Live 9.6b1. Shift > Sequent> does not lay out a chromatic scale.

The manual states;
"The “Sequent” options lay out all notes in order. These options are useful if you need a very large range of notes available, because they have no duplicated notes."
So it's about the range of the scale, not all 12 notes. If you use A Major the first row in this layout goes the A major scale but with each note one octave or more higher: A1, B2, C#4, D5, E6, F#7. I you go vertically and start over at the next column you'll get the normal scale.

If this was different before it was Live itself or the Push firmware that worked differently.

As have already been said all notes can be had already, If you choose Chromatic mode you will get the 12 notes that exist in western music. If 12 notes is what you want Chromatic mode is what you want. Surely Chromatic mode exists in Push 2? If it isn't then the manual must be wrong.

The Live manual states about the Push 2:
"In Chromatic Mode, the pad grid contains all notes. Notes that are in the key are lit, while notes that are not in the key are unlit"
28.5.1 Playing in Other Keys

Re: Push 2 Scales

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:21 am
by Stromkraft
pr_sounddesigns wrote:Can I set all 64 pads to different notes, effectively the same as a keyboard, for synths, Kontakt 5 etc, without so much note duplications?
Aha, So this is what (everyone?) wants in Push 2? It's not about Chromatic, but about the scale layout and repeated notes?

Re: Push 2 Scales

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:39 am
by starving student
yes yes yes

Re: Push 2 Scales

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:47 pm
by pr_sounddesigns
Stromkraft wrote:
pr_sounddesigns wrote:Can I set all 64 pads to different notes, effectively the same as a keyboard, for synths, Kontakt 5 etc, without so much note duplications?
Aha, So this is what (everyone?) wants in Push 2? It's not about Chromatic, but about the scale layout and repeated notes?
both. custom chromatic layout, and custom scale layout.
user-defined scales and custom pad layouts, in normal extended mode (not is user mode)

Re: Push 2 Scales

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:54 am
by starving student
pr_sounddesigns wrote:
Stromkraft wrote:
pr_sounddesigns wrote:Can I set all 64 pads to different notes, effectively the same as a keyboard, for synths, Kontakt 5 etc, without so much note duplications?
Aha, So this is what (everyone?) wants in Push 2? It's not about Chromatic, but about the scale layout and repeated notes?
both. custom chromatic layout, and custom scale layout.
user-defined scales and custom pad layouts, in normal extended mode (not is user mode)
with emphasis on custom.

Re: Push 2 Scales

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:08 am
by Stromkraft
Yes, Custom scales and tunings would be wonderful. I don't really see a reason for not having total freedom for users in this area.

Re: Push 2 Scales

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:55 am
by 8E
Stromkraft wrote:Yes, Custom scales and tunings would be wonderful. I don't really see a reason for not having total freedom for users in this area.
I agree completely.

Re: Push 2 Scales

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:35 am
by pr_sounddesigns
octo8 wrote:
Stromkraft wrote:Yes, Custom scales and tunings would be wonderful. I don't really see a reason for not having total freedom for users in this area.
I agree completely.
Me too!!!

Re: Push 2 Scales

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:44 am
by spagbol
+1

Re: Push 2 Scales

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:51 am
by SFT
Also interested to know. Bump.

Re: Push 2 Scales

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:22 am
by molefonken
+1, bump!