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No velocity in step sequencer?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:17 am
by timothyallan
Am I missing something? Is the only way to get velocity info in via the step sequencer to press/hold the button then turn the knob or use "accent"? I can't play in velocity?

Re: No velocity in step sequencer?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:19 am
by Tarekith
Drum or Instrument step sequencer?

Re: No velocity in step sequencer?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:22 am
by timothyallan
Any, they both spit out 100 all the time unless I have accent pressed.

Re: No velocity in step sequencer?

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:45 pm
by timothyallan
So is that confirmed that there's no input velocity in the step sequencer for Push 2 for Drum or Instrument?? It's either 100 or whatever the Accent is set to?

Re: No velocity in step sequencer?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:40 am
by Jbvdb
Yup seems that way and it was the same in push the original
Tbh AFAIK hardware sequencers work the same

Re: No velocity in step sequencer?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:40 am
by timothyallan
Okay cool thanks, that's really too bad as it's so much nicer to get velocity based grooves on things like shakers by tapping them in, rather than going back and manually editing the velocity for each note by holding down a pad like you currently have to.

Re: No velocity in step sequencer?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:40 pm
by ObtuseMoose
timothyallan wrote:...it's so much nicer to get velocity based grooves on things like shakers by tapping them in, rather than going back and manually editing the velocity for each note by holding down a pad like you currently have to.
Why not use the Repeat function? That gives you velocity variations based on pressure and is specifically made for things like hihat and shaker patterns. Slow down the tempo if you need to.

Or just load up the sound in Simpler and play it in live, which gives you complete control over velocity and timing. Again, you can slow down the tempo if you need to.

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Re: No velocity in step sequencer?

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:46 pm
by panten
PXT-Live gave us velocity in step sequence for Push1 and it was so much better than vanilla Push.

+1 for this as a request (even though I don't have Push2)

Re: No velocity in step sequencer?

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:11 pm
by mach5
Individual step velocity can be adjusted - simply press and hold a step to access note-specific parameters including velocity. Was same procedure on Push 1. Refer section 28.12 of Live 9.5 manual for details.

Re: No velocity in step sequencer?

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:08 pm
by timothyallan
Very true, in fact I mention that exact thing in my original post. That doesn't help with playing in velocities.

Re: No velocity in step sequencer?

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:20 am
by RTo
timothyallan wrote:Okay cool thanks, that's really too bad as it's so much nicer to get velocity based grooves on things like shakers by tapping them in, rather than going back and manually editing the velocity for each note by holding down a pad like you currently have to.
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Re: No velocity in step sequencer?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:27 am
by Stromkraft
panten wrote:PXT-Live gave us velocity in step sequence for Push1 and it was so much better than vanilla Push.

+1 for this as a request (even though I don't have Push2)
PXT Live is one reason why I didn't update to Push 2. I think there are a number of obvious features of huge importance that Ableton need to address. Both the original Push and Push 2 needs to be the best they can be, both with what these can do and as an user experience.

Re: No velocity in step sequencer?

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:38 am
by Precisionguided
New user here, just got my push 2. Is there a way to randomize or humanize the velocity or possibly timing of beats that are programmed using the step sequencer? I know you can do it per note or even for a group of notes, but since there's no velocity sensitivity, is there an easier way to just apply randomization within some parameters over all the notes?

Re: No velocity in step sequencer?

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:01 pm
by ObtuseMoose
Precisionguided wrote:Is there a way to randomize or humanize the velocity or possibly timing of beats that are programmed using the step sequencer?
The Velocity MIDI effect can randomize velocity for all notes on a track.

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Moose

Re: No velocity in step sequencer?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:42 am
by Precisionguided
ObtuseMoose wrote:
Precisionguided wrote:Is there a way to randomize or humanize the velocity or possibly timing of beats that are programmed using the step sequencer?
The Velocity MIDI effect can randomize velocity for all notes on a track.

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Moose
Awesome, thanks!