Push 3 & Live 10

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sf1
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Re: Push 3 & Live 10

Post by sf1 » Wed May 10, 2017 8:15 pm

What about giving push some freedoms too, like an 8 track Push standalone : drum, instrument, sampling, audio and midi track :roll:

TomKern
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Re: Push 3 & Live 10

Post by TomKern » Mon May 15, 2017 1:11 pm

It's the roll eyes that really sell the ignorance.
Well played sir :wink:

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Re: Push 3 & Live 10

Post by Digital Diezel » Wed May 17, 2017 2:31 pm

Looking forward to a standalone Push 3. Does not need to be touch screen though.
Ableton 10, we need a mixer, chord progressions (J74 just buy his joint and integrate it, or steal Cubase's kungfu), VCA's Fader's and updates to the EQ 8 (again steal Cubase's EQ kungfu). Basically just steal all the good shit from everyone else and place it into the Ableton feng shui. OOOOH!! Partner with Expert Sleepers and integrate Silent Way.

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Re: Push 3 & Live 10

Post by TomKern » Wed May 24, 2017 11:41 am

People. Ableton will NEVER make a standalone Push. And that's a good thing. It's not their field of expertise.

Get a Novation Circuit or better yet one of the new Korg Electribes (they even export as .als) and be done with it.

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Re: Push 3 & Live 10

Post by Stromkraft » Wed May 24, 2017 9:47 pm

TomKern wrote:People. Ableton will NEVER make a standalone Push. And that's a good thing. It's not their field of expertise.

Get a Novation Circuit or better yet one of the new Korg Electribes (they even export as .als) and be done with it.
One of my major collaborators just unpacked a new MPC Live. It has potentially everything. Future will tell what it can do.
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chudslayer
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Re: Push 3 & Live 10

Post by chudslayer » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:25 pm

Digital Diezel wrote:Looking forward to a standalone Push 3. Does not need to be touch screen though.
Definitely would never happen, for all the reasons others have said.

Fortunately though, for people who want something like this, other companies are attempting similar things. The new standalone MPC Live and MPC X seem like a very ambitious attempt to realize something along the lines of standalone hardware DAW with flexibility similar to live. Elektron Digitakt and Toraiz SP-12 are interesting too
Partner with Expert Sleepers and integrate Silent Way.
now that's a cool idea!! and perfectly in line with Live's philosophy IMO

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Re: Push 3 & Live 10

Post by magge73 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:11 pm

Digital Diezel wrote:Looking forward to a standalone Push 3. Does not need to be touch screen though.
Ableton 10, we need a mixer, chord progressions (J74 just buy his joint and integrate it, or steal Cubase's kungfu), VCA's Fader's and updates to the EQ 8 (again steal Cubase's EQ kungfu). Basically just steal all the good shit from everyone else and place it into the Ableton feng shui. OOOOH!! Partner with Expert Sleepers and integrate Silent Way.
+100 for the expert sleepers partnering idea!

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Re: Push 3 & Live 10

Post by G-force » Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:28 am

Like Push--this is the future! More dedicated hardware integration! Like Sonic Academy. True 1:1 control of VST software. C'mon Abes! Get to it! :wink: Image

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Re: Push 3 & Live 10

Post by yur2die4 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:45 pm

But if that is going to exist soon, there isn't really a need for Ableton to make it? It'll be great if they implement support for it though

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Re: Push 3 & Live 10

Post by crystalmsc » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:06 am

chudslayer wrote:The new standalone MPC Live and MPC X seem like a very ambitious attempt to realize something along the lines of standalone hardware DAW with flexibility similar to live.
Since the 1st generation of Push was made in partnership with AKAI, I wonder if they have a mutual relationship, like Ableton is behind the MPC Software. Even the product name contains "Live" in it. On certain parts it looks like a simpler - more modern Ableton Live, just with a different (more MPC oriented) vibe. Now the MPC Software 2.0 Desktop Version has been released with 64-bit audio, even the Cubase Elements 9.5 got a 64-bit mixing engine. Hopefully when Live 10 is being released, it will also feature that. Also it would be cool is Push 2 can be used as an MPC Software controller, just for a different environment to play around with.
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Re: Push 3 & Live 10

Post by Stromkraft » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:16 am

crystalmsc wrote: Since the 1st generation of Push was made in partnership with AKAI, I wonder if they have a mutual relationship, like Ableton is behind the MPC Software. Even the product name contains "Live" in it. On certain parts it looks like a simpler - more modern Ableton Live, just with a different (more MPC oriented) vibe. Now the MPC Software 2.0 has been released with 64-bit audio, even the Cubase Elements 9.5 got a 64-bit mixing engine. Hopefully when Live 10 is being released, it will also feature that. Also it would be cool is Push 2 can be used as an MPC Software controller, just for a different environment to play around with.
What are you talking about? Live is already summing in 64 bits. There's no need for 64 bit audio in the audio bus! Higher numbers do not always equal better audio.

And MPC Live is nothing like Live. It's crap more or less with more limitations than I'll waste my time to list. Great audio though already since before. And I like the buttons.
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Re: Push 3 & Live 10

Post by crystalmsc » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:20 pm

Stromkraft wrote:Live is already summing in 64 bits.
It's more than that https://youtu.be/_3jtkuWAOP4
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Re: Push 3 & Live 10

Post by antic604 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:56 pm

crystalmsc wrote:
Stromkraft wrote:Live is already summing in 64 bits.
It's more than that https://youtu.be/_3jtkuWAOP4
More? There's literally NO information in this video. And what is there is wrong - it's not "twice the precision": 64bit vs. 32bit is actually 4.3 billion times more. Not that it matters, though as with 32bits you already get 1.5k dB of headroom.

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Re: Push 3 & Live 10

Post by Stromkraft » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:29 pm

crystalmsc wrote:
Stromkraft wrote:Live is already summing in 64 bits.
It's more than that https://youtu.be/_3jtkuWAOP4
No, that's all there is to it. If you don't understand this you do not understand the technology of digital audio. There's plenty of sources to learn from. I'd suggest not just any youtube video.
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Re: Push 3 & Live 10

Post by crystalmsc » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:47 pm

Will dig more about the 64bit stuff, it's getting more interesting.
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