Ubermap for Push 2 (VST/AU parameter remapping)

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Re: Ubermap for Push 2 (VST/AU parameter remapping)

Post by vokinpirks » Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:54 pm

Abuwabu wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:03 pm
Just copied over the new Config/devices.cfg, and it now reads previously mapped devices; but won't map anything new.
I checked once again, everything works for me.
Can you show me your devices.cfg?
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Re: Ubermap for Push 2 (VST/AU parameter remapping)

Post by Abuwabu » Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:06 pm

vokinpirks wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:54 pm
I checked once again, everything works for me.
Can you show me your devices.cfg?
Sure... it was just copied over directly from the GitHub repository.

Code: Select all

[Strict_matching]
"Max Audio Effect" = NAME 
"Max Instrument" = NAME
"Max MIDI Effect" = NAME
"Audio Effect Rack" = NAME
Kontakt = PARAMETERS
Reaktor = PARAMETERS
[Additional_banks]
Operator = True
[Dump]
new_devices = True
unmapped_parameters = True
default_ignore = False

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Re: Ubermap for Push 2 (VST/AU parameter remapping)

Post by vokinpirks » Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:00 pm

Abuwabu wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:06 pm
vokinpirks wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:54 pm
I checked once again, everything works for me.
Can you show me your devices.cfg?
Sure... it was just copied over directly from the GitHub repository.
Have no idea. The config looks correct. It must be working if it's applied.
Going to improve logging to better understand what's going on.
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Re: Ubermap for Push 2 (VST/AU parameter remapping)

Post by vokinpirks » Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:48 pm

Abuwabu wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:03 pm
but won't map anything new.
Hello. On which kind of devices you tested this? Currently only VSTs are supported.
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Re: Ubermap for Push 2 (VST/AU parameter remapping)

Post by Abuwabu » Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:11 pm

vokinpirks wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:48 pm
Hello. On which kind of devices you tested this? Currently only VSTs are supported.
Ah ok. I only have AU switched on so it was working with AU. I shall switch to VSTs and report back

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Re: Ubermap for Push 2 (VST/AU parameter remapping)

Post by flipotto » Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:20 pm

Just installed ubermap in live 11.0.12
Working great!

I want to explore the kontakt recent addition.
Perhaps I can test it.
Now I need to find what I need to install.
I will go back an re-read thread.

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Re: Ubermap for Push 2 (VST/AU parameter remapping)

Post by matlind » Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:05 pm

Wanted to let you know that I installed this on Ableton 11.1 today on my m1 mac in m1 compability mode, and it runs just fine so far :D

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Re: Ubermap for Push 2 (VST/AU parameter remapping)

Post by vokinpirks » Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:40 pm

Glad to see someone finds the L11 compatibility update useful. If people are still interested in this project, I will do my best to support it further.
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Re: Ubermap for Push 2 (VST/AU parameter remapping)

Post by burtz » Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:42 am

Hi vokinpirks,

I just discovered your scripts. I had previously purchased Preditor 2 €79 (which doesnt work in Ableton 11 yet) and will probably be a while yet before it does. So I am grateful for your time and effort you put into this so far and wish I knew about it before hand.

I haven't had a chance to test it out yet, so may have a few q's once I get into installing and trying to configure devices.

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Re: Ubermap for Push 2 (VST/AU parameter remapping)

Post by burtz » Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:46 pm

vokinpirks wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:40 pm
Glad to see someone finds the L11 compatibility update useful. If people are still interested in this project, I will do my best to support it further.
Hi Vokin,

I got around to setup up ubermap today. Everything seemed to go well on install (running MacOS 11 M1 & live 11.1 & push2)

The problem is ubermap creates a .txt file within ~\ubermap\Devices folder. I was expecting a .cfg file to be created but they are not.

Any idea what I am doing wrong? Pretty sure i'm following install instructions and didn't really see any Mac users having the same issue in this thread.

Also, in Ableton preferences I dont see an ubermap script to select, I presume you just use the Push2 script and the install has modified that?

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Re: Ubermap for Push 2 (VST/AU parameter remapping)

Post by baseinstinct » Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:53 pm

that's a good question. I am on windows 10 and have tried several times. ubermap is not showing as a midi remote script. Anyone?

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Re: Ubermap for Push 2 (VST/AU parameter remapping)

Post by burtz » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:31 am

baseinstinct wrote:
Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:53 pm
that's a good question. I am on windows 10 and have tried several times. ubermap is not showing as a midi remote script. Anyone?
Hey base,

Does it still create the .cfg files within the ubermap/devices folder? Because if it does, its probably they way its supposed to be.

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Re: Ubermap for Push 2 (VST/AU parameter remapping)

Post by burtz » Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:02 am

baseinstinct wrote:
Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:53 pm
that's a good question. I am on windows 10 and have tried several times. ubermap is not showing as a midi remote script. Anyone?
I just seen an older thread, and you do not need to change the push2 script.

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Re: Ubermap for Push 2 (VST/AU parameter remapping)

Post by baseinstinct » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:30 am

This make a heck of a difference.
Good to know, thanks.

To gather it all together,
Works with the latest versions of live up to 11.1.11
Windows and Apple
You don't change the script to ubermap
The setting in options.Txt must be 127, not -1
A quick way to revert is to restore the pyc file
Don't expect apparent change until you have a preset ready for a plugin and you load it to a track and select it in push

One more thing, what is the advantage of this method over just creating racks and mapping their knobs? I can see both involve quite a bit of actions, and the ubermap does look more elegant, although there are always those version concerns - will it be adjusted to ableton changes. Another advantage is that you don't get this other layer of device cluttering push screen and you get more than 8 knobs.
Thanks

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Re: Ubermap for Push 2 (VST/AU parameter remapping)

Post by burtz » Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:27 am

@Base - "One More thing, what is the advantage of this method over just creating racks and mapoubg their knobs? I csn see bith involve quite a kit if actions, and the ubermap just looks more elegant."

For me its 3 advantages than stock ableton mapping:
1. I can rename bank pages on the push. For example an instrument page can be labelled OSC or Filter, rather than Bank 1, Bank 2, you cant do that with ableton stock
2. You can have blank slots in a Bank, you cant do that with ableton stock
3. You have have the same control on multiple bank pages. For example, I want to map an EQ with the input and output gain across multiple pages/banks, that way if I change EQ gain on one bank page, I dont have to navigate back to the page where my Input and Output controls where mapped. You cant do that with ableton stock, if a prameter is mapped on bank 1, it cant be mapped to bank 2

Ableton not supporting thes things by default is doesnt help peoples workflow I think

I hope one day Ableton will implement Bitwigs way for doing device parameter mapping. Its so easy to setup mapping at the device or preset level depending on how you wish to set it up. Even with the Push2 in bitwig it works perfect using Moss's script - http://www.mossgrabers.de/Software/Bitwig/Bitwig.html

You just dont get image feedback like you do with ableton

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