



At least tell us how to hack the configuration to add this?
Look at PXT Live and its "capture" feature that gets the notes that are used placed out, ignoring unused notes. Which is how "fold" works in Live. Especially handy when not every note belong to the same scale.[jur] wrote:How would like such a feature to work exactly?
You already have the non-chromatic mode on Push which equals a fold (to scale) principle.
Would you prefer something more personal, like you define 5 notes and fold them to where ever they belong to a scale or not?
I have looked at PXT Live . The Capture feature only works if there are at least 4 different notes in the clip. The PXT Arsenal offers a fold mode but really I don't have the time to learn how to use these things and they are way too briefly explained. There's just to much there to take on. All these Push User mode add-ons are too awkward. I am trying to keep things simple so that I can focus on music making rather than memorising button combinations.Stromkraft wrote:Look at PXT Live and its "capture" feature that gets the notes that are used placed out, ignoring unused notes. Which is how "fold" works in Live. Especially handy when not every note belong to the same scale.[jur] wrote:How would like such a feature to work exactly?
You already have the non-chromatic mode on Push which equals a fold (to scale) principle.
Would you prefer something more personal, like you define 5 notes and fold them to where ever they belong to a scale or not?
I suggested Ableton would look at that function.Skullrattler wrote: I have looked at PXT Live . The Capture feature only works if there are at least 4 different notes in the clip. The PXT Arsenal offers a fold mode but really I don't have the time to learn how to use these things and they are way too briefly explained.
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Agreed.Skullrattler wrote: I really cannot fathom why they do not include this simple note fold feature on Push that has been present in Live forever...
Ehum, I control external gear all the time from my Push, so I have no idea what you mean. I also do per step automation all the time. Please don't create limitations where there are none. I'm not saying these functions couldn't be improved though and it's quite mind-boggling sometimes how you can do things, or can't.Skullrattler wrote: Coupled with the maddening lack of MIDI CC knobs to control external gear from Push ( the only option is to use Max objects and edit them in Max editor which is wayyy too awkward) is making me seriously think of abandoning Live and moving onto Maschine, which does these things quite a bit better (not to mention per-step parameter automation, custom knobs that can be renamed without resorting to external scripting environments, etc etc) and is more focused on loop-based electronic music...
What I mean (unless there's some convoluted work-around that I'm missing) is that there is no way to set up virtual MIDI CC knobs and have them controlled by the Push knobs without using Max objects ( and having to mess with the Max editor to program and name the knobs and set the order in which they appear). This is ridiculous for what's meant to be a complete MIDI sequencer. MIDI CCs have been around for a very long time and Live is not new either.Stromkraft wrote: Ehum, I control external gear all the time from my Push, so I have no idea what you mean. I also do per step automation all the time. Please don't create limitations where there are none. I'm not saying these function couldn't be improved though and it's quite mind-boggling sometimes how you can do things, or can't.
- Make an empty RackSkullrattler wrote:MIDI CC knobs to control external gear from Push ( the only option is to use Max objects and edit them in Max editor which is wayyy too awkward)
Use more Racks. Use Device Titles as Bank names.Skullrattler wrote:Thanks, I will try that... but is there a way to have more than 8 knobs and have them all appear on Push on successive pages ?
This is what I do, more or less, though I seldom need more than 8. It can be argued this is a somewhat convoluted way, but it is also how you do so many other things in Live, so I've come to accept it.hoffman2k wrote:Use more Racks. Use Device Titles as Bank names.Skullrattler wrote:Thanks, I will try that... but is there a way to have more than 8 knobs and have them all appear on Push on successive pages ?
Pages or Banks, its the same end result.
I just tried this and remembered that I have tried it before and just cannot get it to work. The macro knobs can be controlled from external MIDI gear but not the other way around... I made an empty rack, inserted an external instrument set to send MIDI to the right channel and get the audio from the synth, then entered MIDI Map mode and mapped the macros to the MIDI CCs from my synth by turning the right knobs on the synth. MIDI Remote is on for the synth's MIDI in and out in Live's preferences. The synth can receive MIDI CCs without problem from Max MIDI knobs, but not the macro knobs. I have spent hours trying to get this to work, and searching online ... I'd appreciate if someone could describe in detail how to do it!hoffman2k wrote:- Make an empty RackSkullrattler wrote:MIDI CC knobs to control external gear from Push ( the only option is to use Max objects and edit them in Max editor which is wayyy too awkward)
- Name the Macros
- MIDI Learn your external gear to that Rack
- Make sure MIDI Remote is set up to send and receive from the hardware
Voila, you can control your gear with Push and name the parameters. No MFL required.
The Macro knobs output via the Remote output. If you try to set it up like 8 CC's, it uses the Track output.Skullrattler wrote:This doesn't work otherwise the "8 MIDI CCs" M4L device would not have been made...