Ableton Push 3 update

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Zadok Wu
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Ableton Push 3 update

Post by Zadok Wu » Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:37 pm

What do you think the chances are that there will be an Ableton Push 3 in April?

(I am definitely going to get a Push, just trying to work out when is a good time)

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Re: Ableton Push 3 update

Post by Tarekith » Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:38 am

Nobody has any idea, if they say they do, they are lying. :) If Push looks interesting to you as it is now, definitely get it now and get on with making music and having a good time. If you absolutely must wait for a new version (assuming there is one), all you can do is wait.

Not trying to be confrontational, just that with only 2 versions of Push released to date, it's not like an iPhone where you can predict a release time frame. All you're doing is basing your purchase on other people's guesses.
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Re: Ableton Push 3 update

Post by ShelLuser » Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:21 am

In addition to the above...

So what if Push 3 came out? It wouldn't invalidate your Push 2 in any way and well... Yes, I am biased but I can honestly say that Push 2 is an amazing device for those who want to get the most out of Live.

Not perfect! Heck no, it has its quirks here and there but at the risk of sounding like a fanboy: I don't necessarily pick those up as a bad thing. Limitations within this field can only bring out the best in your creative flow if you let it. Yesterday I messed with a Maschine, had 3 tones to work with and I spread those out onto a 16 pad grid (4x4, vs the 64 (aka 8x8) pad of the Push). Despite the sheer limitations it sounded good.

Now imagine what you can achieve with the Push which has more pads and a specific setup which allows you to always play in key.

The problem with controllers and software additions alike is that it becomes harder over time to add "new" stuff. Not to mention that 'new stuff' doesn't always have to result in 'better stuff'. And a Push 3 would definitely not easily outdo the amazing stuff you can do with version 2 right now.

I suppose it all depends what you're aiming for, but one way or the other: Push 2 = one heck of a Live instrument.
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Re: Ableton Push 3 update

Post by Zadok Wu » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:09 am

Yep, your right, the Push 2 is amazing the way it is. It is also hard to imagine that Ableton wouldn't be working on a MacBook Touch Bar style touch screen experience right now. (i.e. how amazing is this: https://www.reddit.com/r/ableton/commen ... sers_with/

I just know from past experience, when we are looking at larger purchases, I tend to get quite annoyed if a new version comes out a few months after I have purchased it. So I am trying to avoid the aggravation.

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Re: Ableton Push 3 update

Post by spacelake » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:56 pm

Well, their hardware team seems to be growing.

https://www.ableton.com/en/jobs/apply/156903/

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Re: Ableton Push 3 update

Post by Zadok Wu » Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:48 am

Well spotted, although technically it could just be replacing a staff member who is leaving. Heres hoping for new exciting things to come 😀

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Re: Ableton Push 3 update

Post by torbenscharling » Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:56 pm

Hopefully they fully implemented Push 2 before going to a potential v3 so many areas are lacking it’s not wise to just wish for a Push 3 when in reality what you should wish for, is for Ableton to care bringing Push 2 up to speed, finish developing Push 2 first - very little has changed since 2015 so ya, maybe think about your priorities maybe it’s better to ask Ableton to finish Push 2 development first also to prove to the community that they actually can, and care.

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Re: Ableton Push 3 update

Post by [art] » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:08 am

I've been wondering the same thing myself. I had Push 1 and then Push 2 for while, but I actually sold the Push 2 what is now a couple years ago, surprising not to see an update in that time.

However it's coming round for Summer where I live and I always like to make music at that time, I'm feeling the pangs to grab a Push as its so great for making music.

I remember some of my misgivings about the device the last time I owned it, but I can live with those gripes in the immediate future. It still surprises me how the price hasn't really budged all these years later.

I think whenever Push 3 lands, it will be so far ahead of the current device, they will basically seem like two seperate things.

A smaller form factor, tapable buttons, an interface built in, battery power, and even the ability to jam independent of a laptop would all be huge improvements that would warrant an upgrade imo. Although it remains to be seen how much of this is possible and what workflow limitations may be present.

I love the idea of being on a couch with an Ableton Push and headphones, and thats it. No laptop, no interface, no PSU or USB cable. In the meantime that's what it is - it's more desk-based. Who knows what direction they would take a third iteration.

An alternate route of exploration, ala Ableton Link, would be if they worked on some kind of wireless audio protocol - so you could have your laptop open where Ableton is running, but everything happens over a network. That would be really cool and save on the Push having to have such intense instrument CPU processing etc.

It's not 'jamming in a park or cafe on ableton push without a laptop', but I'd happily take 'jam with push on your couch' as the next marketing angle for the mk3 :lol:

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Re: Ableton Push 3 update

Post by Airyck » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:52 pm

I’m thinking we’ll be seeing MPE capabilities at the same time so probably not until Live 11.0 at least.
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Re: Ableton Push 3 update

Post by billpayer » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:25 am

[art] wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:08 am
I love the idea of being on a couch with an Ableton Push and headphones, and thats it. No laptop, no interface, no PSU or USB cable.
You basically just described what Novation did with the circuit. :D
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