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MetaClips

when I make a chunk of patterns in session that use follow actions I often dont want them taking up space, I want them to run 'as one'. If we could hide them inside a MetaCLip it would save on slot space for live use, yet still allow editing if required.
I imagine double clicking would unfold metaclips into a vitual clip column for editing, also you could 'explode metaclip' to extract the clips again.

It would also be useful for...

when I have an Arrangement View track of an edited loop all cut up to funkify it - I cant use that hard work in session unless I consolidate into a new sample. That seems mad. The initial loop is usually only 2 or 4 bars long, so buffering the sample for offsets in session wouldnt be resource intensive. Why cant we make a selected area of an arangement track onto a session MetaClip ...without rendering.

it would greatly enhace the 'Live' aspect of composing and the app in general

right now I start work in session, then when I get technical on my edits in arrangement I dont really want to render everything to wav just to use it in session. I want to move seamlessly back and forth between the two modes while I build up my music

It is a major stumbling block in the workflow of Live IMO

specifically: the transition back and forth from Session to Arrangement should be seamless and continual ...but it isn't. It requires me to render half finished tracks and re-import into session clips.

Meta Clips please

yeah, excellent idea ...

I dont use follow actions very much because - once you use them - your horizontal scene gets split down the grid for only the clip(s) that are using the follow actions.

it breaks up the grid way more than it should. if we could fold the follow action clips back into one clip, we could create all kinds of structures / breakdowns so much more easier - also keeps the grid clean for playing live

totally see how this would be a top priority suggestion, makes follow actions so much more useful ..
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Bump !

eighteen years later

+1
I’ve made a m4l device to solve this issue, but it’s not ideal.

+1 Great idea!

I posted a similar feature request, but as a redesign of group tracks, check it out: viewtopic.php?t=248796

chapelier fou wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:17 am

+1
I’ve made a m4l device to solve this issue, but it’s not ideal.

what is the name of this device?

I’ve not shared it yet and for now it only emulates random follow action.
The basic idea is to gather clips into a single one, x time longer than the original, one after the other, and to jump randomly in multiples of the original length every y beats.