The loudness war has a winner

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beats me
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The loudness war has a winner

Post by beats me » Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:37 am

A lot of business going on in the low end here. If I listen to it several times in a row my ears, speakers, and ass are all bleeding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxxmZhvkHa8

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Re: The loudness war has a winner

Post by hurlingdervish » Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:54 am

wow someone created an anthem for 14 year olds who hate math and dream about anime porn

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Re: The loudness war has a winner

Post by kb420 » Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:20 am

That was a great video, but it don't have shit on this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8499557518#
"That which does not kill us makes us stronger..........."
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Re: The loudness war has a winner

Post by anachroschism » Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:40 am

Theres a new mouse in sub-town, that shit rumbled proper thanks for the post

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Re: The loudness war has a winner

Post by beats me » Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:53 am

This track makes Prodigy sound like they're playing through a 72 Mustang mono speaker. Good or bad, undecided. My head hurts.

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Re: The loudness war has a winner

Post by Ed Lektron » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:54 pm

What a shit tune :arrow:

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Re: The loudness war has a winner

Post by Earwax69 » Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:29 pm

Prodigy's better. If you want hardcore go for some good old Atari Teenage Riot. The video is not really original too, kinda lame mix between Justice urban violence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqmgkeMwtHI) and the old daftpunk mascot video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQUIBJ_jYTU) without the subtility of both.

The song would have been better served with a nicer video.

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Re: The loudness war has a winner

Post by beats me » Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:16 pm

Again, this about LOUDNESS. I think they reached a new demension of compression on this one.

Carry on.

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Re: The loudness war has a winner

Post by Machinesworking » Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:04 pm

beats me wrote:Again, this about LOUDNESS. I think they reached a new demension of compression on this one.

Carry on.
No use trying! Posted a thread about a cool trick this guy did with Jitter/Max4Live, and all people did was post about the quality of the guys presentation. :D

I'll try though, yeah that's compressed to hell, but I've heard worse. For some things I don't mind overcompression, but you really get a sense of it when you hear an instrument ruined with it. A certain metal song on a CD I have is so compressed that the drums pump, badly, and have zero attack. Really ruins the performance when that happens.

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Re: The loudness war has a winner

Post by beats me » Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:58 pm

Machinesworking wrote:
beats me wrote:Again, this about LOUDNESS. I think they reached a new demension of compression on this one.

Carry on.
No use trying! Posted a thread about a cool trick this guy did with Jitter/Max4Live, and all people did was post about the quality of the guys presentation. :D

I'll try though, yeah that's compressed to hell, but I've heard worse. For some things I don't mind overcompression, but you really get a sense of it when you hear an instrument ruined with it. A certain metal song on a CD I have is so compressed that the drums pump, badly, and have zero attack. Really ruins the performance when that happens.
The thing with this track is I can't determine if it sounds awesome or like complete shit. It varies from speaker to speaker. If people are just checking this track out on their laptop internal speakers they're not getting the full effect.

I've played it back to back with other tracks by different artists and each time I've had to fiddle with the volume because there's such a large difference.

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Re: The loudness war has a winner

Post by Sage » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:54 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgGItLYyBQ0

This seems louder to me. But heard to tell on youtube

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Re: The loudness war has a winner

Post by 8O » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:05 pm

Play those clips without touching your volume control.

And now play this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiQgcLHXayg
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Re: The loudness war has a winner

Post by anachroschism » Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:52 am

8O wrote:Play those clips without touching your volume control.

And now play this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiQgcLHXayg

OW

wondering what that tune was since i heard Alex metric drop it on some set, thank you. I can now make the clubs ears bleed with even greater efficiency.

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Re: The loudness war has a winner

Post by Michael Hatsis » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:41 am

I hear you man - no dynamics whatsoever..all sounds are the same level! but it definately isnt too destroyed at all in my opinion..id say it's more of a miracle in modern mixing and mastering- how they cold compress that much and still have the kicks punchy and stuff...dunno...prol get flamed for writing this 8)

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