Looping a La Richie Hawtin

[vonwerdt]

well for me that's a real turn-off. in a live environment, sweaty hands, one beer too many, knobs that sometimes aren't THAT exact, it's just not the way to do it for me.

[Yeeeehaaaa7]

well for me that's a real turn-off. in a live environment, sweaty hands, one beer too many, knobs that sometimes aren't THAT exact, it's just not the way to do it for me.

ideally it wouldn't be for me either, but its the only solution I have at the minute

[nuperspective]

looking at the videos there nothing hes doing in traktor you cant do in live by mapping your loop points and all the stuff everyone mentioned. ill give him that hes always pushing things on. give him 12 months and he will most likely switch to live / serato.

[nuperspective]

there is one problem though: you can only loop the clip currently in focus. isn't it possible to have different mappings for different channels? say keys z, x and c for looping functionality on channel one and v, b and n on channel two?

yeah, I found that, just means I need to be very quick jumping between tracks but so far so good, and I managed to pull it off live too

the other thing im not to sure how to recreate in live is the pulling the tempos apart. he shows it in the vids, but it looks like each deck in traktor has its own controllable tempo. this lets him create those weird poly rhythms.

[Yeeeehaaaa7]

looking at the videos there nothing hes doing in traktor you cant do in live by mapping your loop points and all the stuff everyone mentioned. ill give him that hes always pushing things on. give him 12 months and he will most likely switch to live / serato.

yeah, the only issue is you can only loop the track thats playing so I can't assign different buttons and knobs on the controller to loop different tracks. They wa I'm isn't ideal but it'll have to do just now. I don't really want to switch to traktor, I used to use the Skratch version, and I prefer ableton tbh.

he's also incorporating the new NI Maschine into his sets, wich is pretty impressive

[nuperspective]

looking at the videos there nothing hes doing in traktor you cant do in live by mapping your loop points and all the stuff everyone mentioned. ill give him that hes always pushing things on. give him 12 months and he will most likely switch to live / serato.

yeah, the only issue is you can only loop the track thats playing so I can't assign different buttons and knobs on the controller to loop different tracks. They wa I'm isn't ideal but it'll have to do just now. I don't really want to switch to traktor, I used to use the Skratch version, and I prefer ableton tbh.

he's also incorporating the new NI Maschine into his sets, wich is pretty impressive

true. but that can get to confusing. theres always a track that forms the bedrock of the sound. the other tracks are layers on top. the global settings for loops are very handy and keep thing simple. a must if your doing stuff on the fly. if you what all the audio mashed use the fx some of the guys have spoken about on the master channel or a group bus and go wild.

any more than three tracks of music turns into audio soup very quickly without major eqing. thats why you would be better off adding your own loops of hats, bass, perc etc on top of other peoples track. just as effective and more control. thats basically what hawtin does.

[nuperspective]

just for the cheap seats - heres the vids for those who havent seen them...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1H9W_iLff0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKQlU8ha_XE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTDVqrPJJLI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxP1aSBSYDk

[Spindrift]

I use an AutoHotKey script to create macros to be able to set a loop of predefined length, move loop position and move start and end.

Here is a pic with the loop controls:


Start loop defaults to a loop length defined in the AHK script.

This code will make an "F" key set a loop with a length of 4 bars when you set the mouse positions according to your resolution:

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;
; mouse positions
;

; x position of loop length box
markersX = 350

; y position of loop end box
markersLoopEndY = 1170

; position of non active area to clear focus 
unfocusX = 350
unfocusY = 1200

;
; macro to make "F" key create a 4 bar loop
;

F::

; send "F" key...assign this to loop start set button
Send {F}

; get current mouse position
MouseGetPos, xpos, ypos ; get mouse position

; click on loop end box
MouseClick left, markersX, markersLoopEndY, ,0

; set length to 4 bars
Send {4}
Send {Enter}

; click to take back focus from input field
MouseClick left, unfocusX, unfocusY, ,0

; return mouse pointer to original position
MouseMove, xpos, ypos, 0

return

If you like to get the whole script I use it's available in this post:
http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=113216

[blablub]

if we could combine the speedcontroll of lives looper with beatrepeat... then we would be much closer!!??! don´t you think...?!? i twisted my head around that but couldn´t come up with a fency solution...

if lives looper wouldnt delete the end of the loop in the buffer, when cutting the loop to half of its size we would be much closer too...

i cant figure smthing out... messing around in the clip view doesnt do it 4 me...
i guess i have to wait till max4live comes out, and hope, that i can build myself an instant-looper-audio-fx...

u think that´s possible with m4l???

thx blablub

[skulpture]

u think that´s possible with m4l???

I'm very sure

[MajoDub]

great i was trying to do this long time thanks ¡¡

[blablub]

so...
now that max4live is out there for quite a while...
i wonder if anybody is able to "loop the hawtin way"...
if so, could u offer your live patch pleas...
i had a look inside m4l while it was in beta status, but i didnt get it (to complicated 4 me yet)

thx
blablub

[S4racen]

http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device.php?id=137

Scene 2 mate....

Cheers
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