Hmm.... I wonder where they got this idea from.....?

[Cyberstar]

Guys - it's pretty obvious that Cakewalk (Sonar) took this from Project 5, their lame Ableton Live-alike software they brought out about 5 years ago which failed, so they stopped supporting it 2 or 3 years ago.

Damn this shite must have been lame I've never heard of it till today.

[Gargoyle]

project 5s arp is better than anyone elses.

[kb420]

Project 5 had it's own serious hardcore fanboys who were crushed when they found out it's development was over. I used P5 before I learned about Live, and in my opinion, it was Cakewalk's attempt at duplicating Live.

Even now with Sonar 8.5, some of the users are asking for features that the new Groove Matrix can't deliver, but are common in Live:

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=1873129


Just remember, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!

[outershpongolia]

Just remember, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!

That reminds me of this:

[ethios4]

This is why it is essential that Ableton get their session view quirks worked out, rewrite or no.

[gomi]

Yikes... That's a pretty blatant rip off in my book.

- "Hey, let's just rotate the scene/track view ninety degrees, and nobody will notice!"
- "Are you sure about that? It seems pretty obvious..."
- "Counter clockwise!!!"
- "Brilliant!"

thats just what windows did to the the mac os... and we all know what happened there.

[humnumb]

Sonar keeps improving the maxtrix view features with 8.5.2:
# Combine Matrix View cells with probabilistic Step Sequencer patterns for some generative music-making
# Drag cells from Matrix View into Track View – a bit like going from Ableton Live’s Session View to Arrange View, but in a more conventional DAW workflow