... just epic. What an amazing sense of space you have, my man.
- it sounds so good, it must clearly be made in ProTools. And you can't prove that Live *doesn't* eat kittens. You can't!
... just epic. What an amazing sense of space you have, my man.
3dot... wrote:well... Samplitude can render from marker to marker into seperate wavs...
which I use a lot in editing...
live doesn't have that...
Logic has notation... so does Cubase...
cubase does batch processings/rendering..
and ProToolsLE has no auto latency compensation...
(besides the fact that all have different fx and instruments)
so of course there is a difference... I'm not suggesting otherwise..
but saying there is audio degredation by just routing the audio through...with no processing...
kinda makes no sense...
besides the fact that audio engineers (such as myself) are using it...
(I would not use a tool that degrades my sound for no reason...)
I don't know you ... so although I really want to trust your ears..I can't...
please don't take offense... but I do believe IT IS a Placebo effect..(or some other effect/syndrome)
although you don't care... I challenge you to
prove me wrong..
shouldn't be too hard... do a null test...
what? You had good sounding fun? tsss, tsss, tsss...henke wrote:my point was slightly more subtile: it took me less than 3 minutes to record the voice into an existing project, apply some edits, move some of the existing parts, added reverb, and bounce the result. 3 minutes of fun and the result sounds okay to me.
robert
I don't think it's anger. It's frustration. And it's frustating, because this isn't the first time it's been discussed here. Nor the second. I think there have been dozens of threads about this, all of which have contained the classic "I'm not saying there's anything wrong, I just think it's worth discussing", the other clasic being "prove to me that it doesn't colour the sound", and then every now and then someone will make an attempt to prove one statement or the other.pix wrote:I just can't understand why the angry tone.
I just realized that I can't do a sum test on this
combine that with a 512 sample fft window and you're really not going to get any useful information...as I said I tried to subtract them but they're not 100% in sync
pix wrote:I just can't understand why the angry tone.
regarding the windowing function you were mentioning could it cause the overall amplitude decrease in the high frequencies we see here?
Because the windowing is the same in the analysis of the two files. they have the same length as well. Am I missing something?
And using Live never stopped me from making music either. but that's not what we're discussing. We're addessing if there are *any* differences between different summing engines.
Some people say that they're *exactly* the same. I'm arguing that they might not be so.
+1.henke wrote:The discussion is pointless, because it is not musical.
henke wrote: The discussion is pointless....
If people cannot get good sounding music out of *any* DAW these days, it is not the fault of the tool.
Robert
This forum is pointless, because it is not musical.Leon Tricker wrote:henke wrote:The discussion is pointless, because it is not musical.
speak for yerself sonny, what are doing here anyway didn't you pro-your-tools?shatzer wrote:This forum is pointless, because it is not musical.Leon Tricker wrote:henke wrote:The discussion is pointless, because it is not musical.
it's like reading Mr Bean goes online. he's completely clueless. amazing. deer in the headlights.shatzer wrote:lol. Have you been to the pro tools forums????? Bunch of noobs. Atleast the Ableton forum is interesting even tho I don't use it anymore, i still love the product. It's what popped my cherry into engineering. I mean, I've used many many many software editors before but it was the 1st I actually held onto and enjoyed making music in. I guess Ableton has some "sentimental value" to me. lolspeak for yerself sonny, what are doing here anyway didn't you pro-your-tools?
or did you come to your senses?
Besides, where else can u find a bunch of people with difference in opinions and argue a bunch of arguements that noone will win and then jump on each others cases and call each other names and get banned by the Gears of War dude (DOM) for making smart remarks and mentally unstable people posting about how Live sucks and its destroyed their lives and pictures of cake?