Wanna use an Electribe as a controller? No Prob

Trypset · Post by **Trypset** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:37 pm

recently I have been using the Electribe as the Master and setting Ableton to slave. It seems to stick in time a little better when the hardware is set as the master.

Anyone got any new templates or ways to use their electribes????

I had an idea the other day and have yet to put it to use.....set up many instances of a Midi channel with a drum rack on it.

channel 1 is normal
channel 2 needs to have a chord plugin or some sort of midi plug in to transpose the incoming midi notes...

this way you can arm a new midi track and use the same incoming midi from the hardware b/c changhing midi note/channel on the electribe mid performance would be ghey...

soundwave · Post by **soundwave** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:24 pm

I have successfully mapped every knob and button on my KORG ES1 mkII to ableton to use as a sequencer/controller.

I am impressed with all that midi mapping but what I don't understand is why would you want to do that?
Does it still work as electribe, or only as a midi controller?

Trypset · Post by **Trypset** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:46 pm

it still works as an electribe does if you have it on an audio track that is setup and armed.....it works as a controller when you have it on a midi tracks that is setup and armed.

You get the best of both worlds.....for me anyways

Nick the Zombie · Post by **Nick the Zombie** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:00 pm

Very interesting thead. Keeping myself updated on this one.

soundwave · Post by **soundwave** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:24 am

Trypset wrote:it still works as an electribe does if you have it on an audio track that is setup and armed.....it works as a controller when you have it on a midi tracks that is setup and armed.

You get the best of both worlds.....for me anyways

Hmmm interesting, have to try that...
Now I use remote midi out>EMX in, out to>ESXin, out>midi in SC.
plus R 25 goes to PC via USB..

Trypset · Post by **Trypset** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:38 pm

it will always be sending MIDI information out, it actually sends NRPNS......with MIDI ox you can tell the NRPNS to do any CC activity you want. Its awesome.....map some knobs to control parameters and then do a motion sequence on the electibe....magically there is now a motion sequence in Ableton

I also starting effing with the "External Audio Effect"

Set it up on a return track and you can send audio from live -> to the electribe -> back into live

this allows you to use the electribes effect proccessor for any audio you send out

this might be basic but i have recently discovered the possibilities......total live resampling upon live resampling.

mcinnes01 · Post by **mcinnes01** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:04 pm

Hi,

I have mapped my electribe to control ableton using the instructions for midiox posted earlier in this forum, however I have a few questions....

I am new to ableton and electribes and midi... so far I can control ableton with all the knobs etc on the electribe except the mute and solo keys and the play pause record etc. (would be interesting if anyone has managed to map these??)

My first question is, on the electribe when used as an electribe only, you can control the sound of each part with the knobs and buttons individually. I have these all mapped and so can assign them in ableton, but how do I get is to I can assign them to individually control the sound of each part.

So for example if I assigned the open hi-hat on my electribe to say a hi-hat in ableton and then assigned all the knobs on the electribe to control the dynamics of the hi-hat in ableton. If I then assigned the crash on my electribe to a crash in ableton is it possible to separately assign the knobs and buttons to control the dynamics of the crash and the same for all the other part keys?

My problem is that when you map the electribe in midiox each of knobs has a set value so when you map it in ableton it can only be assigned to control one thing.

My next thought was has anyone managed to reverse map an electribe an ableton, this would be useful so I can edit patterns in ableton and then control the electribe with them?

I noticed someone said they were using there electribe as a 16 step sequencer to write sequences with electribe in ableton. What do I need to do in order to do this.

Sorry for 20 questions and I'm sure some of them are little dumb but I am very new to everything midi and ableton and so am struggling setting up my equipment.

Any help would be great!

Thanks

Andy

Max Headroom · Post by **Max Headroom** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:09 pm

Hi everyone,

I hope this thread is still being visited by some of you Electribe/Live geeks.

I've been reading tons of stuff on forums lately but I am quite new into this MIDI controls
so there may be some silly questions coming out. Yet I need to know more...

ES-1 as a controller for Live working with a Macbook.
What I need is to use knobs to control Fx and plugins in Live,
which is a mighty audio tool-a tremendous sampler.

There is Midi Pipe soft, right but I have been trying to configure those ES NRPN for some time with no relevent result.
The Es midi map found on the korg site seems weird to me. it looks as if there were more than one NRPN for each knob,
depending on the part you choose to control on the ES. Is this true, how to convert those NRPNS with Midi Pipe?????

Could anyone give me some tips on how Midi Pipe works??? Please?

If I assign many NRPN to the same controller, Say #38 (data entry), does that mean that the different knobs,
for instance, would do the same control....or is it that they have the same behaviour - ?

Well I'll continue digging my hole here but a tip or two would be welcome....

Thanx people,

Trypset · Post by **Trypset** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:53 am

Sorry, I only have knowledge of MIDI-OX at the moment on Winblows. It makes it super easy to work with...well not super easy, but once hooked up you turn a knob and midi-ox displays the exact NRPN, i never once had to look at the korg site for info. Maybe check midi pipes?? website or manual.

Max Headroom · Post by **Max Headroom** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:29 pm

Hello,

Thank you for leaving a note Trypset.
I have already took a look at the Midi Pipe site and the manual,
the latter is kind of pretty short and in my opinion rather useless
because one can understand the meaning of the tools names by their name.

this is the manual found on the site :

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MidiPipe V1.4.3

About

MidiPipe is freeware and comes with no warranties. MidiPipe can be useful in a music studio or live on stage to route, map, filter, convert, display, input and output MIDI messages in real-time. Mac OS X 10.3.9 (Panther) or higher is required - 10.5 (Leopard) is recommended.

Use

Click on a tool in the "Tools" list (left side) to see it's parameters. "Drag&Drop" or "Double Click" a tool in the "Tools" list in order to put it in the pipe (right side). Tools in the pipe can be reordered via "Drag&Drop". MIDI messages "flow" from top to bottom through the pipe. A pipe can have several inputs and outputs. A message arriving at an output will be copied to the output and then continues "flowing" through the pipe (if there are additional tools after the output). In order to edit parameters of several tools at once, it is possible to open a panel for each tool by double clicking it in the pipe list.

Tools

• MIDI In - connects a MIDI input to the pipe

• MIDI Out - connects a MIDI output to the pipe

• AList - outputs messages to the screen

• Message Converter - converts messages from one type to an other

• Delay - delays the time for when the message is scheduled

• Transpose - transposes note to multiple keys, set velocity, delay and channel for each

• Message Filter - filters by messages

• Channel Filter - filters by channel

• Channel Router - routes channels

• Keyboard Split - moves note on/off messages above/below a split point to a different channel

• Randomizer - randomly changes any parameter value(s) of any channel message(s)

• Keyboard - play a on screen keyboard with your mouse or keys; will display arriving messages too

• MicroTuner - apply different scales

• Set - set any parameter value(s) of any channel message(s) to any value

• Duration - add a delay between Note On and Note Off messages

• Control Split - inverse, limit, scale, fade in/out, route and map MIDI controllers

• Control Slider - simple slider for control message input

• AppleScript Trigger - use the power of AppleScript to implement everything you want

• (N)RPN Mapper - map (N)RPNs

• Velocity Modifier - scale, shift, clip and filter the velocity of Note On and Note Off messages

• SMF Player - plays up to 128 MIDI Files; handles Song Select, Start/Stop/Continue messages

• Key Mapper - map keys

• DLS Synth - user interface for Apple's DLS Synth

• Message Factory - trigger your own messages with static and variable data bytes

• Double Filter - filters identical messages

• Monophonic - make monophonic

_____________________________________________________________________________________

All this doesn't enlighten me at all. I suppose I would need a rather intensive course on MIDI stuff to get in to it.
Untill today all I did with midi was synchronising a couple of machines and/or computers.
Anyway this is an awsome soft and a hell of a good work, it is a freeware. Respect to you Nicowald.

By the way my hope was that Spyral would come across my demand for he is working with a Mac and seems to have succeeded in
turning his Electribe into a controller. At least he had to deal with Midi Pipe.

I continue digging with Pipe eventough I lack time these days.

Thanx

MH

Max Headroom · Post by **Max Headroom** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:22 am

yo wow,

I think I got it. It takes tiiiiiiiime to do it but I can see a shape of a sense in that midi language.

After a few billions of hours spend on the net and fighting Midi Pipe I have finally managed to map
five knobs (fx, edit 1, edit 2, delay and time) waaaaa.....

This config works fine on my Macbook.

To achieve this I have first written down every NRPN on this machine that I have listed with Midi Pipe.

This is what takes so much time. When you have that nrpn list what you need is to map everything manually.
message by message!!!! aaargh

I have created a pipe like this:

-Midi In : specify your midi in coming from ES-1 into Mac (USB midi device in my case)
-A List : when you turn a knob or push a button it displays its NRPN or CC or Whatever it is.
Here I can see my nrpn #
-Message converter : you convert those nrpns into cc. It takes one Message converter per nrpn!
so you'll have to put many of those into your pipe.
-A List : Again, just to be sure that the Message converter chain has converted all messages correctly.
-Midi out : You specify Midi Pipe Out.

Then in Live preferences your midi in = midi pipe output.
Map your Live easily from now on.

Next step for me is to map the rest of the knobs (pitch, level, filter and pan).
Indeed These knobs receive different messages regarding if part 1 , 2 3 etc is selected.
Therefore I'll have to map multiple korg's NRPNs to one CC for Live.
I'll give it a try this week.

Now I am going to rest but pretty soon I may give you a few links that helped me understand this crazy stuff.

Anyway thank you for being there people doing things by yourself.
bye ye ye ye wooow

Trypset · Post by **Trypset** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:29 am

Congrats man, I know how you feel. I was there about a year ago searching and slaving away to get it mapped in MIDI-OX. Sounds like Pipe was a little more work, but it is well, well worth it. Peace out and happy mapping.

inakiesarte · Post by **inakiesarte** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:28 pm

Great post! So valuable info.
I have tried so far and I just can get to work the parts... I followed your steps
but as far as MIDI OX might have been updated I can get it to work, as the steps you did
by the time didnt match as todays version... Besides that when im using the sequencer the
midi notes being wrote are to short, so the samples from the drum rack doesnt play the whole sound.
Do you what may be happening?
Thanks!

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