Monolake's silence - the reverb...

[glitchrock-buddha]

Was listening to this album the other day and was noticing that it has a very nice sense of space throughout the whole thing. A nice sound in the album, sometimes subtle, sometimes big, but always pretty nice and clean. This struck me as interesting because I've seen in the past in some video henke mentioning that he pretty much always uses Live's reverb, except for Altiverb the odd time.

I've never been a huge fan of Live's reverb, always found it rather metallic, but I certainly didn't find that to be the case in this album. I wonder if Henke might shed some light. I always like it when my assumptions or biases are challenged. If it's live's reverb, then it just goes to show it's all about the sound design...

[djsynchro]

it just works

[glitchrock-buddha]

it just works

I'm so glad that never gets old.

[djsynchro]

I'm so glad that never gets old.

this

[pepezabala]

this might be because live's audio engine has been designed with the purpose to make monolake sound great.

[glitchrock-buddha]

I'm so glad that never gets old.

this

I'm also glad that never gets old.

[glitchrock-buddha]

this might be because live's audio engine has been designed with the purpose to make monolake sound great.

Truth!

But seriously, it doesn't sound like Live's reverb to me at all. Does it to anyone else?

[senator adam]

this might be because live's audio engine has been designed with the purpose to make monolake sound great.

Truth!

But seriously, I don't sound like Live's reverb to me at all. Does it to anyone else?

No, you sound more like a delay, not a reverb.

[glitchrock-buddha]

this might be because live's audio engine has been designed with the purpose to make monolake sound great.

Truth!

But seriously, I don't sound like Live's reverb to me at all. Does it to anyone else?

No, you sound more like a delay, not a reverb.

Well played. And fixed!

Damn, "the lounge" is seriously the wrong place to talk about music!

[timothyallan]

[polyslax]

Perhaps Altiverb?

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php? ... 2&#p503462

[mikemc]

heavens to betsy, that's funny.

[Homebelly]

I've been listening to Mr Lake a lot lately as well.
I'm not stating it as fact, but my guess would be he might be racking lives reverb up and running more than one. There is a folder in the device menu that has a whole bunch of very cool racked reverb presets in it that create some very cool wide stereo effects. I deconstructed these and then built some of my own to create some cool sounds and textures of my own. Also, running lives reverb one after another in series can produce some very cool and deep textures, especialy with an EQ8 and/or some of the modulation based devices in between.
To me lives reverb sounds a bit more alive than a IR based reverb, in fact i would probably go so far as to say i'm not a particular fan of using IR hosts as reverb simulators. I love them for every thing else. They are great to use as convolution filters where by you use one sound and morph it onto another to create a new sound. In live i use Liquidsonics Reverberate, it has an LFO section that can create some very cool movement to the processed sound. I've built texture where by i have run a sound through it using a loaded IR, bounced that sound and loaded it into Reverberate and continued the process to build up some cool evolving textures.
Having listened to Mr Lake a lot recently, and knowing he is a bit of an Alteverb fan, i wonder of maybe he does some thing a bit similar Probably not, but i'm having fun with my method.

[nikulo]

ahahaha awesome thread^^

[alex.the.forge]

this might be because live's audio engine has been designed with the purpose to make monolake sound great.

Truth!

But seriously, it doesn't sound like Live's reverb to me at all. Does it to anyone else?

I don't know how recent this release is and haven't heard it, but I think Robert said he only just got Altiverb maybe a year or two ago, and before that it was all Live's reverb

But there is a thread on this forum somewhere where he talked about racking 2 in parallel to create a proper stereo reverb (like Homebelly said)