hi fellas.
I'm new to all this crazy world of computing...well at least live.
I have a very silly question, perhaps..
I cannot find in the manual nor tutorials how to create a 'scene'
does anybody hre can give me a round up lecture??
or point me to places on line where there are more in depth tutorials?.
thanks
JRDS
new to live.
new to live.
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anonymouse
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Re: new to live.
check page 47 of the manual.jorodu wrote:hi fellas.
I'm new to all this crazy world of computing...well at least live.
I have a very silly question, perhaps..
I cannot find in the manual nor tutorials how to create a 'scene'
does anybody hre can give me a round up lecture??
or point me to places on line where there are more in depth tutorials?.
thanks
JRDS
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jt_castillo
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a scene is a collection of clips that can all be launched simotaniously, and geenrally compose a certain section of the song, or a groove.
in other words, looking at live in the session view, a scene is just the rows you see, with the scene launch button being the one all the way to your right, under the 'master' column. when you click this button it will launch all clips in the row (scene),
the scenes are numbered sequentially by default when you open up live (1, 2, 3, ect). as you create a song you can name them as needed, for example: intro, head, chorus, bridge, outro, ect.
cheers,
--jt
in other words, looking at live in the session view, a scene is just the rows you see, with the scene launch button being the one all the way to your right, under the 'master' column. when you click this button it will launch all clips in the row (scene),
the scenes are numbered sequentially by default when you open up live (1, 2, 3, ect). as you create a song you can name them as needed, for example: intro, head, chorus, bridge, outro, ect.
cheers,
--jt
if you can, check out the paperback book "Ableton Live 4 Power!" from Course PTR.
I recommend all Live new-comers to have a read of this book. It is extremely well written and it does not read like a user manual. The read is actually quite human and enjoyable. It serves as a more detailed or "in-depth" appendix to the Live User manual which is already pretty well written.
But to give you an idea of how good a book it is, i think its actually written better than the User Manual.
amazon.com usually has it for $20-$25
I recommend all Live new-comers to have a read of this book. It is extremely well written and it does not read like a user manual. The read is actually quite human and enjoyable. It serves as a more detailed or "in-depth" appendix to the Live User manual which is already pretty well written.
But to give you an idea of how good a book it is, i think its actually written better than the User Manual.
amazon.com usually has it for $20-$25
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anonymouse
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try this too -
fill up 8 cells deep and 8 cells wide of a live project with lots of your favourite drum loops, bass loops, melody loops etc etc and midi clips.
then sit back and take an hour to explore what you can do with midi and keyboard control to enable you to stop and start loops, move around the live project, muting, soloing, even controlling effects levels etc You can do all of this with your mouse and keyboard if you don't have a controller.
Once you've really put time into experimenting this way, then Live makes a lot of sense. Each time you find yourself with a good combination of cells; regardless of where they might lie on your screen (i.e. one is in the top left corner, the others are on various lower cells across your screen) that selection of cells can be automatically pasted as a distinct 'scene' below the current set of populated cells in your project. A scene is just a set of clips/loops that occupy the same horizontal line within your project.
next, moving away from playing with what is on your harddrive in its unadjusted form, focus on the drum loop that you think really drives or sits well with whatever grooves you are coming up with as you play around.
move it down to the lowest level on the project layout and copy it 4 times, to the cells below.
double click on the top clip of this list of 5 so as it appears in full in the lower right of your screen. Now you can do whatever you like with each of the 4 copies of the clips in terms of selecting little parts of it, timestretching parts of it, and creating new variations. You'll need to do a forum search about warping and setting loop lengths etc. This is one of the golden nuggets of Live. From one loop, you can rephrase it to provide a lot of variety to your composing, through non-destructive copies customised to your ideas.
once you've tried all of the above, then check out a search of the tricks n tips forum about "follow actions".
There is way more to learn than the above, but it will quickly get you going.
fill up 8 cells deep and 8 cells wide of a live project with lots of your favourite drum loops, bass loops, melody loops etc etc and midi clips.
then sit back and take an hour to explore what you can do with midi and keyboard control to enable you to stop and start loops, move around the live project, muting, soloing, even controlling effects levels etc You can do all of this with your mouse and keyboard if you don't have a controller.
Once you've really put time into experimenting this way, then Live makes a lot of sense. Each time you find yourself with a good combination of cells; regardless of where they might lie on your screen (i.e. one is in the top left corner, the others are on various lower cells across your screen) that selection of cells can be automatically pasted as a distinct 'scene' below the current set of populated cells in your project. A scene is just a set of clips/loops that occupy the same horizontal line within your project.
next, moving away from playing with what is on your harddrive in its unadjusted form, focus on the drum loop that you think really drives or sits well with whatever grooves you are coming up with as you play around.
move it down to the lowest level on the project layout and copy it 4 times, to the cells below.
double click on the top clip of this list of 5 so as it appears in full in the lower right of your screen. Now you can do whatever you like with each of the 4 copies of the clips in terms of selecting little parts of it, timestretching parts of it, and creating new variations. You'll need to do a forum search about warping and setting loop lengths etc. This is one of the golden nuggets of Live. From one loop, you can rephrase it to provide a lot of variety to your composing, through non-destructive copies customised to your ideas.
once you've tried all of the above, then check out a search of the tricks n tips forum about "follow actions".
There is way more to learn than the above, but it will quickly get you going.
Last edited by anonymouse on Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.
no it really wouldn't Live 4 added several new features, and thats the demand the book met. Unfortunately they didn't make a Live 3 book, only Live 2 and 4.jorodu wrote:thanks...
I'm still using 3..
would that book still serve the same purpose?
thanks guys..
freaking love interneT
cheers
spend a few days sifting through the tips & tricks section of the forum (maybe go back several pages until last summer before Live 4 was released would help).
Lots of goodies in there too.
good luck!
Jorodu,
I also reccomend Ableton power 4.
In the meantime there is a lot you can do with just live 3, but my advice is to spend the (I thought it was 75$-y/n?- to upgrade from 3-4) extra cash and move to 4.
The follow actions and clip envelopes, when used in the manner anonymouse describes are a never ending source of fun.
It is crucial that you find a controller to best learn how to fire clips, as Live is an "instrument," and to fully experience it, it is important that you learn how to "hold it right," which is whatever way works best for you. If you don't have the cash for a midi controller right now, for $30 USD you can purchase a nostromo speed pad, which is actually a joystick, but it can tear shit apart (it has about a hundred, programmable options, though later on you are going to have to, imo, get a real midi controller.)
I also reccomend Ableton power 4.
In the meantime there is a lot you can do with just live 3, but my advice is to spend the (I thought it was 75$-y/n?- to upgrade from 3-4) extra cash and move to 4.
The follow actions and clip envelopes, when used in the manner anonymouse describes are a never ending source of fun.
It is crucial that you find a controller to best learn how to fire clips, as Live is an "instrument," and to fully experience it, it is important that you learn how to "hold it right," which is whatever way works best for you. If you don't have the cash for a midi controller right now, for $30 USD you can purchase a nostromo speed pad, which is actually a joystick, but it can tear shit apart (it has about a hundred, programmable options, though later on you are going to have to, imo, get a real midi controller.)