breaking the default knob functionality on an apc40

[amounra93]

Ok, I see what you are talking about. It only works in edit mode, and only AFTER the js has also been loaded somewhere.

The js isn't doing anything, its just sitting there.

And yeah, I never actually checked it out of edit, I just assumed it worked and that I had given you wrong information at first, but you are right.

Still, it DOES work under the conditions that I saw it work in, which obliges me to believe that it will work somehow...this is one of the more bizarre mysteries that I have encountered with the Python scripts.

I am more determined to figure out what is going on now. Mind you, I don't need to use this, but that's not the point...someday, well, someday...I just might lol.

[neuromodulator]

I think I found a solution. It works for me, I think, anyways.

I'm using the APC40 knobs with remote mapping, and mapping them to live.dials that I dynamically reassign the targets of. This remote mapping keeps the association whether the entire apc40 is enabled or not, and the LEDs update automatically.

This means I would have to do a bunch of "selected_track" and "selected_device" stuff if I were concerned with rebuilding the default functions..but I'm not sure that I am, anyway.

Thanks very much for your efforts, amounra93.

[amounra93]

Cool, I'm glad you found a workaround.

I built a little script that does what you need (and actually works out of edit mode), and in so doing, I think I found out why the pureMax version wasn't working: you have to assign a listener to the ring_mode_buttons as well, somehow it keeps them from getting id 0'd when you turn the component off. I'll post my findings for everyone else when I get it done.

Cheers.

[amounra93]

Ok, here ya go. This works for all 8 knobs of the device control, I tested it with a coupla different setups.

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<pre><code>
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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>

....and the js....

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autowatch=1;

var knob=[];
var ring=[];
var device;

function init(cs_num)
{
	for(var i=0;i<8;i++)
	{
    	ring[i]=new LiveAPI(this.patcher, "control_surfaces", cs_num, "controls", 107+(i*3));
	    ring[i].property="value";
		ring[i].n="ring";
		ring[i].num=i;
	    knob[i]=new LiveAPI(this.patcher, callback, "control_surfaces", cs_num, "controls", 108+(i*3));
	    knob[i].property="value";
		knob[i].n="knob";
		knob[i].num=i;
	}
    device=new LiveAPI(this.patcher, callback, "control_surfaces", cs_num, "components", 67);
    post("test_apc_rings loaded");
}

function callback(args)
{
	switch(this.n)
	{
		case "knob":
			outlet(0, this.num, args[1]);
			break;
	}
}

function enable(val)
{
    device.call("set_enabled", val);
    switch (val)
    {
        case 0:
			for(var num in ring)
			{
            	ring[num].call("turn_on");
	            ring[num].call("send_value", 0);
				list(num, 0);
			}
            break;
    }        
}

function list(num, val)
{
    ring[num].call("send_value", 1);
    knob[num].call("send_value", val);
}


function cs(num)
{
	init(num);
}

function dissolve()
{
	for(var i in knob)
	{
		knob[i].property=0;
		knob[i].id=0;
	}
	for(var j in ring)
	{
		ring[i].property=0;
		ring[i].id=0;
	}
	device.id=0;
	post("test_apc_rings dissolved!\n");
}

Please let me know if there are any issues.

I'll try to post a pureMax version later if I have time....I know what wasn't working now.

Cheers.

[amounra93]

And finally, here's the Max version of the same thing (its only for one knob, but you can figure out what to do with it, I'm sure):

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</code></pre>

[S4racen]

I think I found a solution. It works for me, I think, anyways.

I'm using the APC40 knobs with remote mapping, and mapping them to live.dials that I dynamically reassign the targets of. This remote mapping keeps the association whether the entire apc40 is enabled or not, and the LEDs update automatically.

This means I would have to do a bunch of "selected_track" and "selected_device" stuff if I were concerned with rebuilding the default functions..but I'm not sure that I am, anyway.

Thanks very much for your efforts, amounra93.

Thats what i've done....

However i will love the script above when i get a chance, it's just what i've been looking for! and will stop any glitchiness of timings...

CHeers
D

[Mudo]

...

Maybe someday Ableton will release a full documented and open APi for remote scripting and you can override the necessary part by yourself without make conflicts between Remote Script and max code.


...

[neuromodulator]

I think Ableton would be willing and Cycling74 would be willing but it's Akai who would raise a fuss, probably because they don't understand that being open source is a selling point, and not someone hacking their box. Just guessing.

Anyway, thanks for your continued work on the problem, amounra93! I'll try this tonight.

[S4racen]

The control surface stuff is having a very focused effort on producing the help documentation at the moment!

Cheers
D

[neuromodulator]

Works like a charm. My eternal gratitude. You're the man (or woman).

fyi you don't need to bang the "call send_value 2" to 107 every time you send a value to 108. Once is enough.

[amounra93]

Cool I'll ammend the patches I posted most recently to reflect what you found out...I thought I disconnected that connection at one point and it wouldn't work like that (had me scratching my head...didn't seem like it would need it every time). Let me know if you end up with any problems if you use it...I had a couple of crashes when I was working on it, but I think they were from not zeroing out the API objects before resaving the scripts.

Cheers.

James

[Mudo]

...

The control surface stuff is having a very focused effort on producing the help documentation at the moment!

Cheers
D

Oficial or NativeKontrol?


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[hoffman2k]

...

The control surface stuff is having a very focused effort on producing the help documentation at the moment!

Cheers
D

Oficial or NativeKontrol?


...

NativeKontrol is a Bomes (pc) thing.

[S4racen]

...

The control surface stuff is having a very focused effort on producing the help documentation at the moment!

Cheers
D

Oficial or NativeKontrol?


...

Official!!

Cheers
D