Live 8.1.5 - un-analysed mp3s freeze app
Live 8.1.5 - un-analysed mp3s freeze app
MP3s have become unusable for me in Live 8.1.5
Case : when either dragging in 6mb un-analysed MP3 to session or arrange, or importing via the enter key (select a track and then select an MP3, then press return - to import the MP3). Also when previewing an MP3 in Live 8.1.5
in any of these cases the application freezes, GUI drawing stops and the application is unrsponsive for at least 10 seconds
Comparative testing Results:
Live 8.1.1 Works fine
time taken to analyse and then drop always less than 1.5 seconds, times range between 0.5 seconds and 2 second. The "no drop" mouse icon shows, but at least it's only for a second. GUI is fully responsive during this time.
Live 8.1.5 Barely works
time taken to analyse, and then drop ranges between 8 seconds and 16 seconds, although most usual on my 10 6 mb tests was a 10 second wait time.
If this is a drag action the (/) "no drop" mouse icon shows for that time
during this time the application is frozen to interaction, Window Title bar reads "Live 8 - (not responding)" with no further GUI drawing at all - meaning all Live menus, tracks instruments and title-bars are in pale grey with no text and unresponsive.
Previewing
the same happens when I select an MP3 to preview , the 'headphones' are active, and an un-analysed mp3 selected. Pressing the right arrow, or simply selecting an unanalysed MP3 starts preview
In Live 8.1.5 the application locks up for ten seconds. Windows title bar reads "Live 8 - (Not responding)"
The Picture shows the situation.
I will track back through the previous Live versions to see when this occurred.
I have 8.1.1, 8.1.3 , 8.1.4 and 8.1.5 installed
8.1.1 is fine, 8.1.5 is terrible
I will report back
Case : when either dragging in 6mb un-analysed MP3 to session or arrange, or importing via the enter key (select a track and then select an MP3, then press return - to import the MP3). Also when previewing an MP3 in Live 8.1.5
in any of these cases the application freezes, GUI drawing stops and the application is unrsponsive for at least 10 seconds
Comparative testing Results:
Live 8.1.1 Works fine
time taken to analyse and then drop always less than 1.5 seconds, times range between 0.5 seconds and 2 second. The "no drop" mouse icon shows, but at least it's only for a second. GUI is fully responsive during this time.
Live 8.1.5 Barely works
time taken to analyse, and then drop ranges between 8 seconds and 16 seconds, although most usual on my 10 6 mb tests was a 10 second wait time.
If this is a drag action the (/) "no drop" mouse icon shows for that time
during this time the application is frozen to interaction, Window Title bar reads "Live 8 - (not responding)" with no further GUI drawing at all - meaning all Live menus, tracks instruments and title-bars are in pale grey with no text and unresponsive.
Previewing
the same happens when I select an MP3 to preview , the 'headphones' are active, and an un-analysed mp3 selected. Pressing the right arrow, or simply selecting an unanalysed MP3 starts preview
In Live 8.1.5 the application locks up for ten seconds. Windows title bar reads "Live 8 - (Not responding)"
The Picture shows the situation.
I will track back through the previous Live versions to see when this occurred.
I have 8.1.1, 8.1.3 , 8.1.4 and 8.1.5 installed
8.1.1 is fine, 8.1.5 is terrible
I will report back
Re: Live 8.1.5 - un-analysed mp3s freeze app
Actually - that was easy
it all works fine in Live 8.1.4 , I can preview a 6mb Mp3 in less than a second in 8.1.4
A similar file takes over 10 seconds of terror in 8.1.5
So the problem occurred in Live 8.1.5
it all works fine in Live 8.1.4 , I can preview a 6mb Mp3 in less than a second in 8.1.4
A similar file takes over 10 seconds of terror in 8.1.5
So the problem occurred in Live 8.1.5
Re: Live 8.1.5 - un-analysed mp3s freeze app
EDIT
it also exists in 8.1.6 b5, reported in appropriate forum where it is more likely to get love.
it also exists in 8.1.6 b5, reported in appropriate forum where it is more likely to get love.
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Re: Live 8.1.5 - un-analysed mp3s freeze app
Yep I got some time and was messing with live 8.1.5 and the new beta and your right. I made it crash wiithout fail everytime I tried to even scroll through and tried to pick out a track.
Your correct that I've never had this problem with 8 until now
Your correct that I've never had this problem with 8 until now
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Re: Live 8.1.5 - un-analysed mp3s freeze app
I sent a similar bugreport yesterday. I was previewing some files while others were analysed and got a crash with L8.15 and vista.
This is what they told me, maybe it works for you (haven't tried it yet):
"Please try this:
- close Live
- delete the "Preferences.cfg" , "Undo.cfg", "CrashDetection.cfg" and "Template.als" and "Undo.cfg" files (if available) from
C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Ableton\Live 8.1.5\Preferences
- delete the content of these two folders:
C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Ableton\Live 8.1.5\Database
and
C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Ableton\Cache\Cache\Web
- restart Live 8.1.5"
This is what they told me, maybe it works for you (haven't tried it yet):
"Please try this:
- close Live
- delete the "Preferences.cfg" , "Undo.cfg", "CrashDetection.cfg" and "Template.als" and "Undo.cfg" files (if available) from
C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Ableton\Live 8.1.5\Preferences
- delete the content of these two folders:
C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Ableton\Live 8.1.5\Database
and
C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Ableton\Cache\Cache\Web
- restart Live 8.1.5"
Re: Live 8.1.5 - un-analysed mp3s freeze app
Angstrom and Headrick: Is Quicktime installed on your machines or does Live decode using the DirectX extensions?
#1thelark: If you got a crash, then the problem is not really similar.
Best,
Dom
#1thelark: If you got a crash, then the problem is not really similar.
Best,
Dom
ableton support team
support@ableton.com
support@ableton.com
Re: Live 8.1.5 - un-analysed mp3s freeze app
Hi Dom,
quicktime is installed on my machine, I'm not sure what QT component gets used in the decode, but my \QuickTime\QTSystem\QuickTimeMPEG.qtx is version 7.66.71.0
note that versions of Live up to 8.1.3 still work perfectly, but from 8.1.4 onwards it works "differently" (horribly)
I've reported the issue in the beta of 8.1.6 b5 here
quicktime is installed on my machine, I'm not sure what QT component gets used in the decode, but my \QuickTime\QTSystem\QuickTimeMPEG.qtx is version 7.66.71.0
note that versions of Live up to 8.1.3 still work perfectly, but from 8.1.4 onwards it works "differently" (horribly)
I've reported the issue in the beta of 8.1.6 b5 here
Re: Live 8.1.5 - un-analysed mp3s freeze app
Similar thing was happening to me too. I had 8.1 and couldn't load some songs at all but then I installed Quick time and then I could. And then the problems started, Live freezes on random occasions while loading an unanalysed songs (sometimes works with no problem though, but it eventually happens). Tried updating to 8.13 & 8.14 but it keeps happening. Analysed songs work fine.
My guess is that it has something to do with Quick Time...
My guess is that it has something to do with Quick Time...
Re: Live 8.1.5 - un-analysed mp3s freeze app
I'm not entirely sure it's the same issue though, because my older versions of Live still work fine (everything up to and including 8.1.4), and I'm sure they are using the exact same QT libraries.
It's baffling.
I'm blaming that damn scratchy DJ software integration they are working on.
whatever it's called.
It's baffling.
I'm blaming that damn scratchy DJ software integration they are working on.
whatever it's called.
Re: Live 8.1.5 - un-analysed mp3s freeze app
I can ensure you: That´s not it.Angstrom wrote:I'm not entirely sure it's the same issue though, because my older versions of Live still work fine (everything up to and including 8.1.4), and I'm sure they are using the exact same QT libraries.
It's baffling.
I'm blaming that damn scratchy DJ software integration they are working on.
whatever it's called.
We´re investigating what´s causing this on your machine.
best,
Christian
Re: Live 8.1.5 - un-analysed mp3s freeze app
Thanks Christian, that's reassuring.
would you like any logs?
I have a beta on this machine, so I can produce some if you like
would you like any logs?
I have a beta on this machine, so I can produce some if you like
Re: Live 8.1.5 - un-analysed mp3s freeze app
Yes, please send me the reports from the beta.
Best,
Christian
Best,
Christian
Re: Live 8.1.5 - un-analysed mp3s freeze app
Ok, I'll grab some lunch and then mail them over in a while
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Re: Live 8.1.5 - un-analysed mp3s freeze app
This is happening to me too, and its been since 8.1.3 and my machine often times wont come back from the freeze, so midset i am now afraid to add songs in, which really sucks
windows 7 on ibm thinkpad z61t 4g ram plenty of juice for the task
any solutions yet?
windows 7 on ibm thinkpad z61t 4g ram plenty of juice for the task
any solutions yet?