Like an SP-404 or SP-555 but more flexibility? Maschine?

[The Carpet Cleaner]

So good to work with Maschine + Live.

for my last remix did it in 5 hours, I didn't even think about 1 seconds where I was going. I just did it.
Import some sample/stems in maschine, slice and modify them a bit, and then load some drums as well.
Then quickly did about 10 paterns on the different groups.

Then drag/drop Audio to Live clip session view, play with the APC to build arrangement related to the vocal part.
Ok there was some pad missing, load some keys from the provided stems in maschine, slice, modify ADH, some group effect, 16 beats, automation. again drag drop again. Fit perfectly. DONE.

Then mix in Live and then mastering and done.

workflow is so smooth

[MonsieurBon]

... To be honest, the ability to click one thing and reverse a sample is not worth several hundred dollars+learning curve to me. ...

Dude I hear ya, and I struggled with that too. And also with whether it's just a "grass is greener"/gearlust sort of thing. And I went through my list of what I was trying to build into Live's mapping to see what I really need and what I only thought I needed.

But after spending a couple hours last night with the SP-404, 555, iPod, NintendoDS (DS-10 and Elektroplankton), and a pocket 4-track and really enjoying just playing music, I'm willing to at least give the Maschine a shot.

Also I really like just improvising with people, and while that is totally possible in Live with some template sets I have, with the samplers it's really really easy to just make things happen and if someone else wants to use it I only need to spend about a minute explaining how to use it. (I have learned to tell people to NEVER touch the DEL button, though. ARGH) I doubt Maschine will fill that niche though.

This tutorial actually helped me set up a super easy-to-use MultiFX rack in Live - http://www.sound-unsound.com/forums/tut ... -live.html, which was easily mappable with all the knobs and buttons I have these days.

make sure you spend time with it, you don't want to end up like some folks who buy one, sell it and then buy it again after somehow they finally understood whats under the hood, and since you've just got it def wait until you've experienced the free major software update that should be out by christmas

Hahah don't worry! I rarely sell gear unless it's totally redundant. In the past I sold too many things (well I kind of HAD to in order to afford to eat and whatnot) but then usually regretted it later. I frequently return to things to give them a second chance and then am amazed at what can be done when you fall out of particular habits of usage, if that makes sense.

[glitchrock-buddha]

Also I really like just improvising with people, and while that is totally possible in Live with some template sets I have, with the samplers it's really really easy to just make things happen and if someone else wants to use it I only need to spend about a minute explaining how to use it. (I have learned to tell people to NEVER touch the DEL button, though. ARGH) I doubt Maschine will fill that niche though.

This is exactly where Maschine shines actually. It does fill that Niche just like the easily accessible hardware samplers. I find my self in the same position jamming with people where everyone likes to play with everything. With Live, drum racks or other plug-ins, it's not so straight forward to quickly explain to someone how they would change sounds or what controls what on your midi controller. With Maschine it's just like a simple hardware sampler, explain a few buttons and someone can have fun with it.

[MonsieurBon]

This is exactly where Maschine shines actually. It does fill that Niche just like the easily accessible hardware samplers. I find my self in the same position jamming with people where everyone likes to play with everything. With Live, drum racks or other plug-ins, it's not so straight forward to quickly explain to someone how they would change sounds or what controls what on your midi controller. With Maschine it's just like a simple hardware sampler, explain a few buttons and someone can have fun with it.

That's a good point, and I guess that's part of the reason why I want to try Maschine.

I've even played with people who use Live exclusively and they do things differently such that my MIDI mappings are confusing to them. Even little stuff, like using Drum Racks vs. Impulse, ends up being confusing for people.

I love Live because I feel like you really can do just about ANYTHING you want with it, and frequently when I think I can't do something I find a crazy way to do it or someone else who figured it out. But sometimes all those choices can be a little overwhelming or otherwise make the creative process a little less direct.

[starving student]

nice tool to jam with

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_iH5hGF210

[delicioso]

I have an SP-404, and when I saw Maschine, I was wondering how much better it was? Still comfusing about the use of Maschine. I looked at the demos of Maschine, and the sp-404 seems to be able to do the same things, though not as fast.

What? They're not even comparable.

Maschine is more like taking the best aspects of the MPC, electribe, machinedrum and Live's session view and turning it into a hands-on, tactile instrument, and leaving out the undesirable aspects such as the cumbersome sample loading process and inherent technical limitations of hardware and the unspiring, mouse-click driven process of software. It's the first true software/hardware hybrid of its kind. No one's ever married the workflow benefits of hardware with the power and flexibility of software like this before. That's why there are still some people who remain skeptical how much of a game changer it really is.

The whole point of Maschine is being able to do everything from the hardware controller like browse/load sounds, sample, slice, mangle, step sequence, real time sequence, mute, solo, delete, undo, record real-time automation...etc. all with just the controller itself. No need to even touch the mouse and you can even have the computer screen turned off. You can't do what I just described with the SP404 or Live, period.

[starving student]

I have an SP-404, and when I saw Maschine, I was wondering how much better it was? Still comfusing about the use of Maschine. I looked at the demos of Maschine, and the sp-404 seems to be able to do the same things, though not as fast.

What? They're not even comparable.

Maschine is more like taking the best aspects of the MPC, electribe, machinedrum and Live's session view and turning it into a hands-on, tactile instrument, and leaving out the undesirable aspects such as the cumbersome sample loading process and inherent technical limitations of hardware and the unspiring, mouse-click driven process of software. It's the first true software/hardware hybrid of its kind. No one's ever married the workflow benefits of hardware with the power and flexibility of software like this before. That's why there are still some people who remain skeptical how much of a game changer it really is.

The whole point of Maschine is being able to do everything from the hardware controller like browse/load sounds, sample, slice, mangle, step sequence, real time sequence, mute, solo, delete, undo, record real-time automation...etc. all with just the controller itself. No need to even touch the mouse and you can even have the computer screen turned off. You can't do what I just described with the SP404 or Live, period.

i thought he was joking about that comment, sp- vs maschine, I love my sp but that's a healthy does of
optimism on the sp's dare I might say.