Akai apc 20 or apc 40?

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Akai apc 20 or apc 40?

Post by Logeek » Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:27 am

Apc 20 or 40? It seems that the only difference is in space and size. Is there something I'm missing? What do you think?
Other question is, should I wait until the holidays to buy? Any new stuff on the horizon from Akai/Ableton?
Thanks,Logeek
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Re: Akai apc 20 or apc 40?

Post by flippo » Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:25 am

Logeek wrote:Apc 20 or 40? It seems that the only difference is in space and size.

You're half right; they are different in size, but not space.

Apart from the size, they are absolutely identical, particularly in regards to space.

I'm not sure about time, though; I think maybe one of them is a few seconds longer?


also the APC40 has a bit more warmth but the APC20 has more presence.

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Re: Akai apc 20 or apc 40?

Post by jtdj » Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:31 am

flippo wrote:
Logeek wrote:Apc 20 or 40? It seems that the only difference is in space and size.



also the APC40 has a bit more warmth but the APC20 has more presence.

is that a joke?

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Re: Akai apc 20 or apc 40?

Post by 33tetragammon » Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:27 am

flippo wrote:
Logeek wrote:Apc 20 or 40? It seems that the only difference is in space and size.

You're half right; they are different in size, but not space.

Apart from the size, they are absolutely identical, particularly in regards to space.

I'm not sure about time, though; I think maybe one of them is a few seconds longer?


also the APC40 has a bit more warmth but the APC20 has more presence.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: LMFAO!!!!

could that have something to do with the now infamous Henke Brown dither?(ask 3phase)
maybe Poop Smear can clarify the brown part of the equation.......

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Re: Akai apc 20 or apc 40?

Post by gavgrant » Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:03 pm

I pondered over this question only just a few months ago as well and finally decided on the APC40....

Really happy of the choice i made (was also looking into the launchpad & remote zero set up)

I use the rotary's extensively so the "shift" function/idea to use effects on the apc20 does not seem ideal.......

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Re: Akai apc 20 or apc 40?

Post by divonic » Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:17 pm

The APC20 Is basically the left side of the APC40; look closer at the pictures

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Re: Akai apc 20 or apc 40?

Post by neyko » Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:19 pm

I bought the APC 20 and took it back for the APC 40. I find that I always regret when I try to save a few bucks.
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Re: Akai apc 20 or apc 40?

Post by Captain Johnson » Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:04 pm

APC40 is pretty awesome! Check out the python scripts from Hanz!! you can do loads with it!!! :wink:

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Re: Akai apc 20 or apc 40?: ..... Thanks

Post by Logeek » Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:23 am

"Its about time, its about space, its a story 'bout the human race.... (up a 1/2 step) Its about time......." Probably waaaaay too cryptic a reference, but I do appreciate the humor. Thanks for the help and
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Re: Akai apc 20 or apc 40?

Post by gavgrant » Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:49 am

Captain Johnson wrote:APC40 is pretty awesome! Check out the python scripts from Hanz!! you can do loads with it!!! :wink:
Python scripts from Hanz?????
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Re: Akai apc 20 or apc 40?

Post by Captain Johnson » Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:01 pm

gavgrant wrote:
Captain Johnson wrote:APC40 is pretty awesome! Check out the python scripts from Hanz!! you can do loads with it!!! :wink:
Python scripts from Hanz?????
http://remotescripts.blogspot.com/

Check the links on the right of that page boy boy!!! :wink:

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Re: Akai apc 20 or apc 40?

Post by Zeddy » Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:59 pm

Go for the APC40. Missing on the the Device Control knobs on the APC20 would be unenjoyable for me. I find they are the best part of the entire APC40

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Re: Akai apc 20 or apc 40?: ..... Thanks

Post by flippo » Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:43 am

Logeek wrote:"Its about time, its about space, its a story 'bout the human race.... (up a 1/2 step) Its about time......." Probably waaaaay too cryptic a reference, but I do appreciate the humor. Thanks for the help and
( what were you NOT smokin' Sir?).
hehe, I actually haven't smoked for about 12 months :oops:


Go with the 40 imo.

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Re: Akai apc 20 or apc 40? Thanks again!

Post by Logeek » Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:27 am

Thanks again for the feedback. So after all that, I upgraded to live suite and I bought me-self "The Great Destroyer" (serious fuzz/starve/distortion stomp box) by Dwarfcraft. APC40 is next, then a really awesome drum machine... then...& then.................. getting the jones for hardware... Though if I'm honest, I'm only just becoming reasonably conversant in "Ableton-speak"; gear fever is a real phenome 12 steps for gear OBSESSION?
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Re: Akai apc 20 or apc 40?

Post by gavgrant » Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:58 pm

Captain Johnson wrote:
gavgrant wrote:
Captain Johnson wrote:APC40 is pretty awesome! Check out the python scripts from Hanz!! you can do loads with it!!! :wink:
Python scripts from Hanz?????
http://remotescripts.blogspot.com/

Check the links on the right of that page boy boy!!! :wink:

cheers Captain! :D
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