am i the first?

jiffybox · Post by **jiffybox** » Mon May 30, 2005 11:18 am

i feel like i'm the first person to make an entire rock (not remix looped, even though there is some of that...) record with LIVE. 100% LIVE 4.1. am i? i think this is the best program ever, not sure i could have done this without LIVE....
www.myspace.com/thekindstrangers
ALL LIVE. THE WHOLE ALBUM.
jiffy

rlwilliams · Post by **rlwilliams** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:15 am

Hi, Jiffybox,

I listened to your tunes on myspace.com and just wanted to tell you that they sounded great! Can you tell me more about your recording process, instruments used, effects, etc. etc.

Did you record, mix, and master completely in Live, using only Live effects that are included with the program? Or did you use third-party plugins?

I hope I'm not asking too many questions, but you're stuff is the first that I've heard that sounds like this. Usually the songs I've heard are more electronic/experimental and ususally instrumental. I like all of that, but I'm more into learning how to use Live for the more rock/pop sound.

Thanks for your reply.

jiffybox · Post by **jiffybox** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:53 am

thanks! i'm currently drooling over live 5 so forgive me if i check in and out of consciousness. what's funny about recording the whole album with live was that i was just trying out live and i thought it made a really cool songwriting/idea tool, i got so caught up in it that suddenly i was using it full blown. all the instruments are midi except the guitars and vocals, i used a lot of apple loops, sampletank, and soniksynth for the instruments. the combo of soniksynth and sampletank gives you everything you need for virtual instruments and programming beats. i used the m-audio ozonic for midi and audio in, a studio projects mic and a studio projects preamp.

as far as for the effects, i started out using a lot of third party stuff, like mda and pluggo and various freebie vst's i found, but ultimately i scaled it down and used live's effects and some apple au's that i put in my plugin folder. i'm still curious as to how waves sound. also, i used antares autotune, amplitube, and ozone, ozone sparingly because it sucks power big time.

i loved using live but because my experience had previously been with digital performer (which sounds good but feels EXTRA clunky, especially after much ableton usage...) i had my doubts about the SOUND in live, but that's a skill to learn with experience, me thinks. also, i don't have super fancy equipment either, so it really was all done on a shoestring, which is why it doesn't sound like it's in sony studios or something. i had been planning to move onto logic pro after this last record and use live as a writing arranging tool, kinda like how trent reznor did with the new NIN, but after reading about live 5 today, i'm debating. does anyone have any comparison experience between the sound in logic and in live?

i'm not 100% thrilled with the sound, but i had it mastered just to help the rough patches, but again, that's probably not a live issue, those are my limitations for now. dunno if this was any insight whatsoever, but this program was invaluable and i think it's now just as flexible to use for straight ahead instrument based music as much as it's great for dj's and mash ups. good luck, and thanks for checking out the music!!!!! lemme know if you wanna know anything else!

jiffy

, Hi, Jiffybox,

I listened to your tunes on myspace.com and just wanted to tell you that they sounded great! Can you tell me more about your recording process, instruments used, effects, etc. etc.

Did you record, mix, and master completely in Live, using only Live effects that are included with the program? Or did you use third-party plugins?

I hope I'm not asking too many questions, but you're stuff is the first that I've heard that sounds like this. Usually the songs I've heard are more electronic/experimental and ususally instrumental. I like all of that, but I'm more into learning how to use Live for the more rock/pop sound.

Thanks for your reply.

rlwilliams · Post by **rlwilliams** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 3:25 pm

Hi, Jiffy,

Thanks for your reply. I think you've told me enough to know what I wanted.

On your MySpace.com page under your songs there are download links. The "Waiting to Win You Over" song has a link connected to the "Download" underneath the song title. How do you download the song? If you aren't able to download the songs, why does MySpace even put the words under the songs?

Thanks for your time. I'm just a little confused.

Ronnie

DJ Precious · Post by **DJ Precious** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:40 pm

Sounds good mang, but you're kinda kidding yourself thinking you're the first person to compose this sort of music with Live.

Apocrypha · Post by **Apocrypha** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:10 pm

DJ Precious wrote:Sounds good mang, but you're kinda kidding yourself thinking you're the first person to compose this sort of music with Live.

lol. When he said rock, i thougt he meant "Rock". It sounds way more like pop that "Rock" to me. But good luck to you, jiffybox.

jiffybox · Post by **jiffybox** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:31 pm

thanks all. yeah, i know, i'm definitely not the first, and it ain't RAWWWWWKKKKKK, but i think people tend to look at live as a remix/electronic mash up tool than a full on DAW, which it really is becoming. i hear A LOT of techno stuff posted in the forum, which i love, too, i just want people out there who are stuck in a rut with DP4.5 and cubase, etc. to see that you can do all that in live and have a MUCH better time. can't wait to work in LIVE 5. and yep, i s'pose it's pop...jiffypop...
late.
jiffybox