It may not be what it was about, but that's certainly a large part of what it's become. C74 can deny that or support it all they want, but reality is reality. As Angstrom pointed out - and it's something I've echoed in the past - the MAX runtime has no doubt brought untold numbers of people to the full Max/MSP world. I came to the full Live version from a free Live Lite that came with some piece of shit M-Audio product I bought years ago.stringtapper wrote:There's a very specific reason why the Max runtime exists and it's not necessarily about people getting free toys to play with.LoopStationZebra wrote:The fact that there is still a free runtime of MAX =
It's for computer musicians (read: avant garde/academic/high art composers) who need their work to able to run on computers that don't have full Max installed so that their compositions/installations can be performed. The usual method is to carry the Max runtime on a thumb drive/CD-R or download it on to the machine you're using to run the performance. With the advent of powerful laptops the usefulness of the Max runtime is almost certainly declining.
And because a potential M4L runtime would have to run inside a licensed copy of Live anyway this original purpose of the Max runtime becomes moot in this context.
So existence of the Max runtime seems to have had a psychological effect on people to make them think that Cycling '74 was promoting some kind of quasi-open community solution for people to get cool free toys to play with when that wasn't really what it was about.
There's so many ample examples of that kind of business model in the software world, it's hard to know where to even begin. Adobe has done it countless of times with great success. AutoDesk has done it. Etc
I'm not expecting something for nothing. I'm willing to pay a price.
I'm realizing that this is now my 6th post or so on this subject - spread out over 2 forum sections no less, lol. I've said what I wanted to say. I shouldn't have said anything because it's just a waste of fucking time. Neither Ableton or C74 seem to give a shit. Good for them. As more and more cool iPad shit comes out (like Control with full JavaScript capabilities! Hello!), in one year's time I prolly won't even remember what M4L is....unless they include it free with Live9.