Audio Quality

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Valet
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Audio Quality

Post by Valet » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:56 pm

Hey guys, so i have a problem.. When i record my mixes, the quality comes up very bad.. 128kbp/s when the songs i use are ofc 320kbp/s.. Ive used Audacity and Magix Audio Cleaning Lab 14 for recording, but they both give me bad quality. I put the wire in the ''in'' input and not mic input so its not because of that.. soo how do i fix this and make my mixes top quality?

thx!

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Re: Audio Quality

Post by markmakingmusic » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:59 pm

Need more info:

What kind of computer?

Is the "In" referring to the in on your computer or from an audio interface?

Are you using Ableton to record or Audacity?

What are you recording? Guitar? Vox? etc?

What are your sample rate settings in Ableton or whatever your recording software is?
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Re: Audio Quality

Post by Valet » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:52 pm

I have a HP windows vista computer with Hauppauge WinTV HVR 1200 (Model 71XX Hybrid DVB-T, no FP) sound card. (atleast i think its that.. :D)
and yea im plugging the wires from my mixers record inputs to the computers ''in'' input, and ive used Audacity to record.

What i meant by recording, was that i was mixing songs (as in DJin) and i was recording the mix. The Sample rates in audacity are mono, 44100HZ
32-bit float.

hope that helps!

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Re: Audio Quality

Post by hacktheplanet » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:29 am

Why not record your session into arrangement view, then render the entire set?
Or else just record Live's master output into another (muted) channel?
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Re: Audio Quality

Post by Cowlash » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:03 am

Valet wrote:I have a HP windows vista computer with Hauppauge WinTV HVR 1200 (Model 71XX Hybrid DVB-T, no FP) sound card. (atleast i think its that.. :D)
and yea im plugging the wires from my mixers record inputs to the computers ''in'' input, and ive used Audacity to record.

What i meant by recording, was that i was mixing songs (as in DJin) and i was recording the mix. The Sample rates in audacity are mono, 44100HZ
32-bit float.

hope that helps!
If you go from the 'Record Output' on the mixer it will record the volume of the faders, try and use a booth output if the mixer has one - that way you have more control over the output signal

You should also record at 44.1, 16bit, Stereo, as that will be the quality of the music going in - anything other than those settings will be wasted

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Re: Audio Quality

Post by Valet » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:31 pm

Hey thx for the replies guys. I tried recording in the arrangement view, but when i record, it comes out very distorted and clippy.. how do i fix this?

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Re: Audio Quality

Post by markmakingmusic » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:56 pm

Valet wrote:Hey thx for the replies guys. I tried recording in the arrangement view, but when i record, it comes out very distorted and clippy.. how do i fix this?
I would do some research on 'gain staging'. Basically if your output source is too hot (loud), it will clip as it is entering the Ableton input. There is some great info on the Gearslutz.com forums and the ProTools/ Logic Pro forums.

...if you see red anywhere, you need to turn something down somewhere :mrgreen:
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Re: Audio Quality

Post by Valet » Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:10 pm

markmakingmusic wrote:
Valet wrote:Hey thx for the replies guys. I tried recording in the arrangement view, but when i record, it comes out very distorted and clippy.. how do i fix this?
I would do some research on 'gain staging'. Basically if your output source is too hot (loud), it will clip as it is entering the Ableton input. There is some great info on the Gearslutz.com forums and the ProTools/ Logic Pro forums.

...if you see red anywhere, you need to turn something down somewhere :mrgreen:

thx for the website suggestions, i looked up gearslutz but havnt got the solution yet. No, i dont see red anywhere, ive tried turning the gain knob down too, but makes no difference.

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Re: Audio Quality

Post by Valet » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:25 pm

Hmm, i changed the inputs and outputs buffer size, and i think i got it abit better. but its still clippy =/ if u get what i mean

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Re: Audio Quality

Post by Cowlash » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:48 pm

Valet wrote:Hmm, i changed the inputs and outputs buffer size, and i think i got it abit better. but its still clippy =/ if u get what i mean
Have you stopped using the 'Record Out' on the mixer? (What mixer are you using?)

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Re: Audio Quality

Post by Valet » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:44 pm

Inch Lo wrote:
Valet wrote:Hmm, i changed the inputs and outputs buffer size, and i think i got it abit better. but its still clippy =/ if u get what i mean
Have you stopped using the 'Record Out' on the mixer? (What mixer are you using?)
hey, I use a numark x9 mixer

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Re: Audio Quality

Post by Cowlash » Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:03 am

Plug the cable in to the Booth output on the mixer. That way you can use the faders for mixing but control the overall output with the Booth volume knob. Turn it down to reduce the clipping.

How do you have the speakers plugged in? From the master output on the x9 to an amp?

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Re: Audio Quality

Post by Valet » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:45 am

Inch Lo wrote:Plug the cable in to the Booth output on the mixer. That way you can use the faders for mixing but control the overall output with the Booth volume knob. Turn it down to reduce the clipping.

How do you have the speakers plugged in? From the master output on the x9 to an amp?
ye the speakers are plugged to the ''balanced'' output

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