Problem Loading Clips

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Problem Loading Clips

Post by mooz1 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:43 am

Yo. I downloaded the latest version of Ableton from Official Site (30 day trial). I have a problem loading full clips. They don't load fully, i.e. when i try to load a 3 min mp3 track it loads only 15s or 1min, sometimes it loads full track and i dont really understand this becouse all tracks im trying to load are 140bpm. Warping is off, Same thing happens in arangement window and in session window. I have enough disk space and i am using windows 7.

Anyone?

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Re: Problem Loading Clips

Post by yur2die4 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:13 pm

I'd take the time to read about "Clip Properties" and "Warping clips" in the manual. Basically everything on clips. While reading, I'd suggest that you have a few full songs and a few loop clips ready to play around with, experiment with ideas that you get from reading it. get your juices flowing. all that fun stuff.

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Re: Problem Loading Clips

Post by mooz1 » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:27 am

well.. im actually trying to to that but i'm stuck atm because on any tutorial i see the tracks are loaded fully when being dragged to ableton however this doesnt happen for me and i kinda need a lill help here:)

got some screens to visualize the issue

my warping settings
http://tinypic.com/r/6hhj07/7

clip after dragging
http://i54.tinypic.com/14l7nf4.png

same clip after bpm change to 140
http://i52.tinypic.com/2lstf28.png

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Re: Problem Loading Clips

Post by ollyb303 » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:42 am

In your third screenshot, you clearly have the clip end set to 17.1.1, with loop off, so it'll play the first 16 bars then stop.

Change this and your problem's solved. I can see that the clip has loaded fully, so that's not an issue.
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Re: Problem Loading Clips

Post by mooz1 » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:11 am

ollyb303 wrote:In your third screenshot, you clearly have the clip end set to 17.1.1, with loop off, so it'll play the first 16 bars then stop.

Change this and your problem's solved. I can see that the clip has loaded fully, so that's not an issue.

thanks for the answer.. however u don't understand my problem. full clip is longer than 26 bars. the other part of the track is not visible in ableton. its a full track, around 17 there is a drop and then its cut off at 26. i need to know what to do to load a full clip when i drag and drop an mp3 to ableton. hope this clears it out

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Re: Problem Loading Clips

Post by ollyb303 » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:34 am

Just humour me for a second... Have you tried adjusting the clip length?
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Re: Problem Loading Clips

Post by mooz1 » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:11 pm

well tbh im not sure where to set it. could u be more specific?

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Re: Problem Loading Clips

Post by ollyb303 » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:34 pm

in the clip view (visible at the bottom of screenshot 3), to the left of the little yellow rectangle that says "warp", there's a start and an end box... where it says 17 in the end box, type, like 200 and hit enter...
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Re: Problem Loading Clips

Post by mooz1 » Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:18 pm

oh.. that.. it doesn't do anything except extending the clip window. the clip itself stays the same. any other ideas?

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Re: Problem Loading Clips

Post by ollyb303 » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:24 pm

hmmmm. not sure. If you wanna 'collect all and save' and send me the project I'll happily take a look. pm for details please.
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Re: Problem Loading Clips

Post by jsumners » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:44 am

As ollyb303 said, you have the clip set to only play a small section of the overall sample (song). Look at my markup of your third screen shot -- http://i53.tinypic.com/28taow8.png. Notice that I have indicated the four components that determine which parts of the clip will play. The clip will start playing wherever the "start marker" is set. The clip will loop the region selected by the "loop bar." And the clip will stop playing where the "stop marker" is set.

In your screenshot, the start marker is set to the same point as the start of the loop bar, and the stop marker is set to the same point as the end of the loop bar. Therefore, only the section selected by the loop bar is going to play when you start the clip.

If you zoom out on the sample view, then you can adjust the end of the loop bar, and the stop marker, to be set at the end of the sample. Then the whole sample would play from beginning to end.

Here is a tutorial that covers the clip view -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78hr9XYQoko

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Re: Problem Loading Clips

Post by mooz1 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:04 am

if u look at the second screenshot the length of the clip is the same.. but it is not a full track. its not even half of it. when i'm dragging the track into ableton from the explorer it cuts a part of it and this is the real problem.

ill try to fix it after work and if i still wont be able i will try exporting the project and posting here.

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Re: Problem Loading Clips

Post by ShelLuser » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:57 pm

There is a little inconsistency in your story. You say that you turned off warping for long tracks ("Auto warp longs samples") yet all the screenshots you shared above clearly show that warping has been turned on. So something doesn't add up here.

Another thing which I consider peculiar; changing the general bpm normally doesn't affect the bpm of a clip. And the other way around. Needless to say but you can't change the warping of a clip without warp being turned on. Yet in your screenshots the bpm changed in both positions, can't really explain that behavior either.

What I did notice was that the overall bpm was changed from 120 to 89.1 matching that of the bpm in the clip. That by itself is odd behavior too because normally dragging in a clip does not affect the general bpm. Esp. not when you have automatic warping turned off.


What kind of audio file are you messing with here anyway? You mentioned mp3, what kind of mp3 file?

I can't reproduce this behavior, not with mp3s nor with small sample files.
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Re: Problem Loading Clips

Post by mooz1 » Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:46 am

You're right about the inconsistency but I think shouldn't mention warping at all. I don't think it has anything to do with my problem. I just want to drag an mp3 file to my ableton and be able to see it fully and play it fully and that is not possible atm. However recently i discovered that it works perfectly for wav files. I'm playing with full tracks which generally come from beatport.

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Re: Problem Loading Clips

Post by mooz1 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:25 pm

instalation of quicktime seemes to have fixed the problem :))

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