monolake wrote:how comes that newboss and dbfs are fitting so perfectly well together in their ongoing mission against
Live? and how comes that they both make simmilar grammar and spelling mistskes? i am not saying that they are both 3phase, i am just saying that it is getting harder and harder to proof that they are not....
Are you getting paranoid now with the old age? And its not a mission against live its one for live. Its not only 3phase that thinks there are issues.. starts with the berlin hero villalobos..and ..and ..and ..and ..and..and ..and ..and..and...and i constantly check the status..peopel use live..but they dont produce their records with it. At least the majority of collegs i know doesnt do that.
Why that? you claimed the audio be as good as on any other daw already in 2004 when i recall it right.
Have there been quality improvements since that time? I really would like to get an answer on that one.. because officially there wasnt any.. And that dont matches my experience with the program.. and is not really creating trust for ableton statements.
The arrogance of ableton hasnt helped with the L8 crashbugs that was accepted way to late..
Ableton claimed them to be user bugs and wanted the users to proove the bugs to them with a standarized bug report routine that didnt allowed to report random crash bugs at all.
So the fight for live became a fight against ableton.. as contradictonary that sounds..
But with so many bad decissions?
Started with the midi implentation.. dont understand up to today why the midi clips got a total different convention and was so unworkable from the start that one wonderd whether the developers ever have worked with a midi sequencer before they have written an own one. But sticking to age old concepts and implemeting them badly instead just enabling the audo clips to do midi
Would have made it much easier to do the next evolutionary step and allow for real mutitrack clips..and thats actually where live has problems.. multitrack editing and production.. puzzeling with blocks is fine.. but dealing with multitrack content that is supposed to keep its timing relations?
you cant even lock anything along the timeline.
Grouptracks without own launch clips?
anyway.. design flaws are one thing.. nailing possible malfunctions is another.
And regarding the audio we must deal with malfunctions here. Because officially ableton claims transparent operation when warping is in neutral settings..
Or is that just the relative statement and the user just dont knows about the if´s and when´s ?
The ongoing audio issue is another thing in the same hide and seek department as the L8 crashbugs.
Look in your own changelogs.. not so long ago there was a samplerate conversion related bug fixed that of cause , like the crashbugs just appeared "under rare conditions.."
Can you explain me why this rare conditions always happened on my computer? at that time a 2,16 black mac book...
Thanks for the fix anyway..but was a hard bit of work to get some attention for the issue..
And the issue with audio degenerations when using the crossfader function around 2 years ago was sofar i know never reported fixed in a change log..but it got fixed.. by accident?
Has the external fx plug beeing fixed in the time inbetween without notice?
Its really a problem when one has constantly to check the program to see what offsets you need to apply to restore your original performance. One can say that midi is still not an exact science with live.
Will L9 have audio improvements? and if so..will they be advertised? or is it again to the user to question their sanity when its out?
So people wouldnt even able to praise a better audio quality even when its there without appearing stupid?
Anyway. i wont bother you much longer..getting tired of fighting against the ableton mills ..you know.. there are rumours in berlin that ableton has actually finaly found problems in their audio engine, and that the rewrite of L9 needed a rewrite that is performed right now.. Funny gossip for a daw that is supposed to dont have audio problems where just a handful of 3phases cant operate it correctly..
Seems that more people talk about the topic than you are aware of.