How reliable is the "freeze" function?
How reliable is the "freeze" function?
By this i mean, does it usually freeze perferctly? Or can it be buggy?
And most importantly, are there any bugs or other nasties that stop or otherwise f-up unfreezing?
Just curious to hear people opinions / experiences. I want a get a feel for how complicated (CPU hit-wise) i can make my tracks and know that i'll actually be able to finish them without some bug messing the whole thing up!
Many thanks! ...... Mr D.
And most importantly, are there any bugs or other nasties that stop or otherwise f-up unfreezing?
Just curious to hear people opinions / experiences. I want a get a feel for how complicated (CPU hit-wise) i can make my tracks and know that i'll actually be able to finish them without some bug messing the whole thing up!
Many thanks! ...... Mr D.
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Re: How reliable is the "freeze" function?
I have found that freezing does not significantly reduce the CPU load... only when flattening (ie. writing a track to a piece of fixed audio) does any substantial CPU load reduction occur.
Maybe others' experiences vary with this.
I usually will save a version of my set (like... ChunkyTune v1_1) before I go through and make any flattenings, this way if you decide something needs to be changed you can go back to earlier versions of the project with the unfrozen material.
Maybe others' experiences vary with this.
I usually will save a version of my set (like... ChunkyTune v1_1) before I go through and make any flattenings, this way if you decide something needs to be changed you can go back to earlier versions of the project with the unfrozen material.
Re: How reliable is the "freeze" function?
flatten / freeze are essentially the same...LithiuMind wrote:I have found that freezing does not significantly reduce the CPU load... only when flattening (ie. writing a track to a piece of fixed audio) does any substantial CPU load reduction occur.
Maybe others' experiences vary with this.
I usually will save a version of my set (like... ChunkyTune v1_1) before I go through and make any flattenings, this way if you decide something needs to be changed you can go back to earlier versions of the project with the unfrozen material.
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Re: How reliable is the "freeze" function?
Use it a lot - often pull the audio onto a new track (hold Ctrl) to double check timing on the waveform etc. Definitely makes a diff to CPU - especially if you using fat drum racks packed with samples, or chains of effects
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Re: How reliable is the "freeze" function?
I haven't had a problem myself, but any software can have bugs, and should be assumed to have some somewhere. If you want to avoid bugs entirely, don't use software
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Re: How reliable is the "freeze" function?
there needs to be a double blind study comparing frozen to non-frozen, defrosted, flattened and reinflated tracks...immediatley, before bitwig comes out
Re: How reliable is the "freeze" function?
frozen tracks are rendered wav files..look inside your project folders..simmerdown wrote:there needs to be a double blind study comparing frozen to non-frozen, defrosted, flattened and reinflated tracks...immediatley, before bitwig comes out
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I can see the OP's day...
he wakes up to his alarm clock but stays in bed for another hour pondering if there's a bug that caused him to wake up early or late.
then he goes to make breakfast and is flummoxed by thoughts of the reliability of his kitchen appliances.
ultimately by the time he gets out of the house, into his bug ridden car and to work the day's over. he then take 3-4 hours to navigate the way home, worrying about everything he sees. by 2am he's in bed, did no work, gave himself and ulcer and he has to be up in a few hours. or is the clock wrong?
he wakes up to his alarm clock but stays in bed for another hour pondering if there's a bug that caused him to wake up early or late.
then he goes to make breakfast and is flummoxed by thoughts of the reliability of his kitchen appliances.
ultimately by the time he gets out of the house, into his bug ridden car and to work the day's over. he then take 3-4 hours to navigate the way home, worrying about everything he sees. by 2am he's in bed, did no work, gave himself and ulcer and he has to be up in a few hours. or is the clock wrong?
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Re: How reliable is the "freeze" function?
starting to sound like a Philip K Dick story...
Turns out it was the clock tricking him because he's a chauvinist and the clock is female...
Turns out it was the clock tricking him because he's a chauvinist and the clock is female...
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Re: How reliable is the "freeze" function?
It's not software that's flawed ... it's humanity!
Re: How reliable is the "freeze" function?
if this is the case then you should report it as a bug - and maybe check it in different versions of Live (like 8.2.6 and 8.2.7) if you can, because there definitely should not be a difference. Freeze is just playing the wav/aif while visually showing what used to be there.LithiuMind wrote:I have found that freezing does not significantly reduce the CPU load... only when flattening (ie. writing a track to a piece of fixed audio) does any substantial CPU load reduction occur..