A tool for adding punchiness to beats?

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A tool for adding punchiness to beats?

Post by Fanu » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:32 am

One of the few things I miss about Logic is its "Enveloper" tool that is super dope for adding simple snap / punch to beats.
Can you think of an alternative for Live?

(I did try the free M4L effect, "EnvelopeShaper", but I don't think it does the job as well)
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Re: A tool for adding punchiness to beats?

Post by dazzer » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:47 am

My preferred tool for that is Schaack Audio Transient Shaper.

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Re: A tool for adding punchiness to beats?

Post by regretfullySaid » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:57 am

a new rack was just released called Subharmonic that might do the trick...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0UFk-uW-Bo
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Re: A tool for adding punchiness to beats?

Post by Khazul » Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:49 pm

SPL transient designer.
Using a compressor or expander in parallel can help as well.
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Re: A tool for adding punchiness to beats?

Post by matthews » Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:55 pm

Khazul wrote:SPL transient designer.
Just discovered this a few weeks ago, it's an awesome tool and I've been using it a lot, definitely recommended.

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Re: A tool for adding punchiness to beats?

Post by claydough25 » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:49 pm

vengeance samples are really punchy without even using any tools.... i always put a compressor on the whole beat too... im kind of a noob though so dont take my advice too seriously lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NA9mg0TSN0

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Re: A tool for adding punchiness to beats?

Post by shuutobi » Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:52 am

Another SPL TD type device that is free:
http://www.digitalfishphones.com/main.p ... &subItem=4
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Re: A tool for adding punchiness to beats?

Post by piZMo » Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:55 pm

Flux Bitter Sweet II ?

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Re: A tool for adding punchiness to beats?

Post by The Carpet Cleaner » Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:09 pm

probably I m wrong, but aren't those transient designers, just compressors that let attack goes through ?

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Re: A tool for adding punchiness to beats?

Post by antarktika » Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:24 pm

BitterSweet is decent, Stillwell's Transient Monster is another you could look at. It has a unrestricted demo that can be used forever, with no limitations (so in a way free, if you want it to be)

http://www.stillwellaudio.com/?page_id=18

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Re: A tool for adding punchiness to beats?

Post by aioffermann » Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:18 pm

Throw stuff in a sampler and use the envelope controls! :D

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Re: A tool for adding punchiness to beats?

Post by Fanu » Tue May 01, 2012 2:56 pm

antarktika wrote:BitterSweet is decent, Stillwell's Transient Monster is another you could look at. It has a unrestricted demo that can be used forever, with no limitations (so in a way free, if you want it to be)

http://www.stillwellaudio.com/?page_id=18
Thanks!
Seems very legit! :)
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Re: A tool for adding punchiness to beats?

Post by Fanu » Tue May 01, 2012 3:00 pm

And that Flux thing is nice as well!

Thanks :)
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Re: A tool for adding punchiness to beats?

Post by garyboozy » Tue May 01, 2012 3:41 pm

there's always the Multiband Dynamics device. it's well worth getting into it properly.
set the Amount to 50% and set up the 'Above' threshold(s) and ratio(s) to let through the transients.

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Re: A tool for adding punchiness to beats?

Post by wehkah » Tue May 01, 2012 3:47 pm

For me the best way is to use a snappy sample and reduce the release time in simpler on a 2nd chain in Drumrack. You can add a Saturator/Tube & a Compressor. Works really well.

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