reducing the harsh metalic sound of hi-hats
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reducing the harsh metalic sound of hi-hats
Yop
yea lquestion is in in the title.
909 clic clic clic. I want something smoother.
How
cheers
yea lquestion is in in the title.
909 clic clic clic. I want something smoother.
How
cheers
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Re: reducing the harsh metalic sound of hi-hats
use an eq8 to tweak it, or a shaker instead
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Re: reducing the harsh metalic sound of hi-hats
if I use a LPF, I feel like I loose too much air. The sound become muffled.
if I use a shelving EQ, I have to go quite low to remove the harshness, so I feel like I loose again too much air.
I do a combinaison of both, a bit of shelving, a bit of LPF...
but do you have other techniques?
if I use a shelving EQ, I have to go quite low to remove the harshness, so I feel like I loose again too much air.
I do a combinaison of both, a bit of shelving, a bit of LPF...
but do you have other techniques?
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Re: reducing the harsh metalic sound of hi-hats
use a different sample - there are millions of them out there - maybe use a shaker or tambourine
you can spend/waste a lot of time tweaking filters and evelopes and compressors...
you can spend/waste a lot of time tweaking filters and evelopes and compressors...
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Re: reducing the harsh metalic sound of hi-hats
that's what I've been doing Ian
but I find very often that hi-hats are too bright.
but I find very often that hi-hats are too bright.
Re: reducing the harsh metalic sound of hi-hats
You could try a bitcrusher on it at let's say 12 bit...
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Re: reducing the harsh metalic sound of hi-hats
Notch EQ on the harsher frequencies? (Sweep with narrow Q boost to find culprit)
Increase the attack time / volume fade in if using audio rather than MIDI?
Compress with fast attack and longer release to bring out the splashy tails?
What genres of music are you primarily working on?
Increase the attack time / volume fade in if using audio rather than MIDI?
Compress with fast attack and longer release to bring out the splashy tails?
What genres of music are you primarily working on?
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Re: reducing the harsh metalic sound of hi-hats
keep looking then!
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Re: reducing the harsh metalic sound of hi-hats
Put in simpler sampler and adjust attack and release times. Alter fades, envelopes etc. Works for me.
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Re: reducing the harsh metalic sound of hi-hats
Turn them down maybe? This has worked surprisingly well for me.
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Re: reducing the harsh metalic sound of hi-hats
what fat stanley said: notch it out by ear.
or you can look at the hihat in Spectrum, see if there's a particularly harsh freq popping out.
or yea, just turn it down.
or you can look at the hihat in Spectrum, see if there's a particularly harsh freq popping out.
or yea, just turn it down.
Re: reducing the harsh metalic sound of hi-hats
use a notch filter with a high q and crank the gain all of the way up, then sweep around the frequencies in question. find the harshest frequency, then change the gain so you are attenuating the frequency.
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Re: reducing the harsh metalic sound of hi-hats
On hats and other cymbals such as rides and crashes I use a very subtle phaser.
First off try using a stuck phaser to "eq" the cymbal using the notches. The ableton phaser has a lot of colour and tone settings to use for this. You may want a quite dry effect setting, experiment to taste.
Once you have that dialed in the tone, use a slow shallow modulation to give subtle movement.
If done correctly and subtlety it will totally shape he hat samples and give movement without dulling and hashing the hats, and provide plenty of flexibility for the mix.
First off try using a stuck phaser to "eq" the cymbal using the notches. The ableton phaser has a lot of colour and tone settings to use for this. You may want a quite dry effect setting, experiment to taste.
Once you have that dialed in the tone, use a slow shallow modulation to give subtle movement.
If done correctly and subtlety it will totally shape he hat samples and give movement without dulling and hashing the hats, and provide plenty of flexibility for the mix.
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Re: reducing the harsh metalic sound of hi-hats
Very good, all those advices are great, I think the best is to do a bit of all of them depending on the situation !
btw it's for electro so with compression and distortion, harsh sound of hats and symbal can quickly become annoying. Hence the post.
cheers !
btw it's for electro so with compression and distortion, harsh sound of hats and symbal can quickly become annoying. Hence the post.
cheers !
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Re: reducing the harsh metalic sound of hi-hats
Sometimes I find it also helps to increase the attack time a bit in Simpler, so that it doesn't hit so hard (and become a bit more like a shaker).