LIVE 9 : PDC IMPROVED OR NOT ?

[Mr-Bit]

?

[pencilrocket]

Less is more

[broc]

You can control any parameter from anywhere using a max device so no need to mix it in with your sound source tracks.

Yes, but unfortunately the timing of parameter control (API) across different tracks (threads) is not 100% accurate.

[broc]

I have a hard time believing M4L devices would have such high latency even with an empty device.

On a fast computer you can reduce the latency to less than 1 ms, eg. 64/96=0.66 ms.

[glitchrock-buddha]

You can control any parameter from anywhere using a max device so no need to mix it in with your sound source tracks.

Yes however when setting up track macros, it is very convenient and fast to have them be the first device in your track since the blue hand always selects the first device in a track when you select a track. So for control surfaces, it's best to have your main controls on the first device for quick access.

[casiblake]

Now that some people have beta access, I'd like to put this related question out there:

Has the MIDI "delay" that occurs when using a MIDI channel with monitoring set to IN or AUTO been fixed?

that's a different issue and not a bug.

set midi in to OFF when using the delay compensation. see the Driver Error Compensation lesson. it's not in the manual.

connect an output to an input, play it out, record the input (careful about feedback), measure the delay using the timeline at the bottom of Arrange View, enter the delay in the preferences, try again until you get it tight.

Sure, if I was referring to using MIDI with hardware, that would work. And I've done it before.

But there is a tangible delay when playing VSTs live with a keyboard, when a MIDI channel is set to IN or AUTO monitoring. Every other DAW I have used does not have this problem.

No I do not mean audio interface latency, I'm using an RME Multiface II at 64 samples in Live, Reaper and Logic. Live adds further delay to the MIDI that I play in (when MIDI channel monitoring is not OFF), Reaper and Logic do not.

[crumhorn]

But there is a tangible delay when playing VSTs live with a keyboard, when a MIDI channel is set to IN or AUTO monitoring. Every other DAW I have used does not have this problem.

I've noticed a similar effect when playing instrument plugins live. I generally resort to turning off PDC altogether which seems to fix it. It's seems Live is applying PDC to the track even when playing live.

[theophilus]

it is applying PDC. you can turn that off with 'reduced latency while monitoring'.

[crumhorn]

it is applying PDC. you can turn that off with 'reduced latency while monitoring'.

So that's what "reduced latency while monitoring" does!

[casiblake]

Crum and Theo, thank you! I will give this a try. Though I doubt it'll help much to keep my ESX in sync... fickle thing.

[MrFingerDrums]

silence is golden

I think this is how the program is and that it

[paulmaddox]

silence is golden

I think this is how the program is and that it

Sadly, I think that's probably true

[simpli.cissimus]

silence is golden

Especially after Sonar X2, Cubase SX 7 release and their price tags.
The features included will not be available in Live till version 15...

Not to mention that their software work as promised !

[DMuzik]

*BUMP* Any news on this?

[pencilrocket]

no news is good news