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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:45 pm 

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Are the two rows of thin buttons above the pads RGB, or just a couple colors?


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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:30 am 

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Angstrom wrote:
I expect it controls the "global groove amount", which in L8 is at the top of the groove pane, but in Live 9 it's in the old position of "swing".


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If you watch the push intro video, it says that swing is destructive, so the swing knob does not affect "global groove."

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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:27 am 

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Eventful wrote:
Angstrom wrote:
I expect it controls the "global groove amount", which in L8 is at the top of the groove pane, but in Live 9 it's in the old position of "swing".


If you watch the push intro video, it says that swing is destructive, so the swing knob does not affect "global groove."


If that's the case, then "Swing" on Push is something different then, and my original question is still valid.

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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:36 pm 

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Question: Seeing all the new videos on Push coming out these days from NAMM I wondered how the step sequencer works with odd time signatures. It's all based around 4 - 8 - 32 - 64 "bits" (rows, buttons, steps) and so on. I imagine it working great with standard 4/4, but how does it adjust, for example, if I'm working in "drum mode" and I have a 5/4 or 7/8 time signature, something that doesn't works seamlessly with a power of 2 like 4/4 does?

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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:41 pm 

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I have a better question, with NAMM out of the way why is there still no release date?


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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:33 pm 

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because it's not ready yet..

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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:38 pm 

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What is the physical resolution of the encoders, i.e. steps per 360°? And what is the software resolution for volume faders, device parameters and vst parameters, i.e. how many steps are possible? I hope more than 128, for fine tuning.
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Hi Jesse,
any news about the resolution of the encoders?

Thanks for all your answers!


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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:24 pm 

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Hi Guys,
This thread is not dead, I'm just buried with NAMM and trying to get Push out the door. Will try to have answers soon from where I left off.
Jesse

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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:49 am 

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Hey Jesse!

Nice, you're still there!! :-)

Anither one:

Will push handle devices bought as Packs from Ableton.com
In the same way it does with the instruments in the core library?

All the best, Philip


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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:07 pm 

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Jesse wrote:
Hi Guys,
This thread is not dead, I'm just buried with NAMM and trying to get Push out the door. Will try to have answers soon from where I left off.
Jesse


Thanks, I was wondering if any more questions would be answered. (Specifically mine huehuehue etc.)
I'm so excited. Also, is Guitar Center's release date accurate?

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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:46 pm 

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Hi Guys,
I just updated the first page of this thread with some more answers.
Best,
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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:30 pm 

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Hi Jesse, hope you enjoyed NAMM! :)

Here's a few Push related Q's for you, whenever you have some time:

- Does Live / Push actually support the touch-sensitivity of the encoders in any useful manner for recording overdubbing parameter automation? I.e., when touch begins, start recording that specific parameter, when touch ends, stop recording, go back to playing automation? So far, I have only seen references to (1) the ability to delete recorded automation for an individual parameter when touching the associated encoder, and (2) showing the name of a parameter associated with an encoder when touching it, but even on the various video demo's, I have seen nothing specifically related to touch-sensitivity and automation recording.

- If this is supported, then how does it exactly work? What MIDI events are used to indicate touch begin / end events for the individual encoders? Can it easily be mimicked by other controllers by tweaking the Push

- Does Push support 14bit MIDI CC#? It seriously should - a cheap BCR-2000 can already do this just fine. Otherwise it means Push can't really be used well enough to control great synths like the new Moog Sub Phatty accurately, which would of course be quite a shame. M4L patches are surely useful, but are definitely not good enough, if only because of the associated latency and lack of PDC for automation.

- Does Live / Push support using the [Shift] button and/or modifier key for fine-tuning? (Pretty much the same as above. If it doesn't support either one, the encoders aren't really that interesting at all, regardless of touch-sensitivity. It would be yet another too low-resolution encoder with too few knobs.)

- Does the Push device receive updates for its display with track / clip / device / parameter names and parameter values in human readable format every time they are changed either on Push or in Live, e.g. by dragging their order around, deleting, moving, renaming, etc.?

- Is there any mechanism in place to prevent 'flooding' with duplicative, and thus redundant MIDI events from being sent in either direction between Live / Push?

- Can the buttons with different quantization settings (1/4, 1/8, 1/16, etc) also be used to set the resolution of the controls to adjust a clip loop length?


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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:11 pm 

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Since Push has it's own destructive Swing, how does it appear in the software? In other words, can I look at the software and tell "if" and "how much" Swing from Push has been applied to a pad? I've seen a screenshot of a percentage in the upper left hand corner of the screen, but what exactly is that? Is that a global swing from Push? I'm kind of confused because in the videos I've seen of Push, each pad seems to have it's own independant amount of Swing.

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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:56 pm 

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Just to clarify, Push will be able to arm/solo/select tracks for audio recording (i.e. to record looping clips of myself playing guitar in realtime) similar to an APC/Launchpad, correct?

Will the "record and loop the last 2/4/8 bars" work with audio as well, or is that exclusively MIDI?


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 Post subject: Re: Ableton Push: Questions & Answers
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:43 am 

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Jesse wrote:
The detent-less encoders will provide 127 messages per 360deg rotation.


8O

i'm really surprised at that

i think at this level they should definitely be NRPN

i'll wait for version 2

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