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 Post subject: Sex and Ableton Live
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:31 pm 

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A musician friend of mine recently voiced his opinion that anything created solely by a computer is innately cold and lacking in emotion. I decided to prove him wrong by writing something people could fuck to using only Ableton Live (and a guitar; is that cheating?) Here is the result, I call it Shibari.

https://soundcloud.com/vance-soundcloud/shibari



So who do you think won the argument? Constructive criticism is most welcome.

Cheers,

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 Post subject: Re: Sex and Ableton Live
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:49 pm 

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Ste_clectic wrote:
(and a guitar; is that cheating?)


yes


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 Post subject: Re: Sex and Ableton Live
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:49 pm 

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I watched the Robert moog documentary last night and they said the samething. Musicians said it was amazing because it brought a new sound to the table.

In my opinion all music is good, except trap.

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 Post subject: Re: Sex and Ableton Live
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:02 pm 

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Can you guys think of any 100% electronic tracks (no guitars lol) that are sensual? Window Licker by Aphex Twin comes to mind. It's also aggressive but then some people like it rough.

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 Post subject: Re: Sex and Ableton Live
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:24 pm 

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Ste_clectic wrote:
Can you guys think of any 100% electronic tracks (no guitars lol) that are sensual? Window Licker by Aphex Twin comes to mind. It's also aggressive but then some people like it rough.
Multiple thousands. Start with chillout and electronic dub, then ambient, easy listening and so on. I also find some sneaky-smooth techno very sexy. House music of cource, like Motorbass and all the french filter house stuf. There is even sensual trance (rare, but there are a few djs that get it) like Sasha and so forth. Dubstep can be sensual and sexy, espesially some of the early smooth stuf, pre-skrillex aera. Sensual drum n bass from Goldie. Industrial are rough but can be sexy, maybe not sensual. Lot of house is sensual. To sensual for my liking. Personally I can find an exeptionally good production sexy or sensual, regarded I like the music.

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 Post subject: Re: Sex and Ableton Live
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:28 pm 

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Well said

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 Post subject: Re: Sex and Ableton Live
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:45 pm 

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 Post subject: Re: Sex and Ableton Live
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:30 pm 

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Ste_clectic wrote:
Can you guys think of any 100% electronic tracks (no guitars lol) that are sensual? Window Licker by Aphex Twin comes to mind. It's also aggressive but then some people like it rough.


Basically ALl EDM and Hip-Hop.

I've heard of people using shakers, and what not... but you can synth anything... all the VSTs in the world, and analogs.

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 Post subject: Re: Sex and Ableton Live
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:13 pm 

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Guitars are cheating.


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 Post subject: Re: Sex and Ableton Live
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:20 pm 

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i like it, although i think if i tried to "break this out" on my girl she'd be like, "what the f*ck are you doing??!" :lol:
especially around the lead part @ 1:41

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 Post subject: Re: Sex and Ableton Live
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:05 pm 

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Ste_clectic wrote:
anything created solely by a computer...

I decided to prove him wrong by writing something...


Er, surely if you wrote it then it wasn't "created solely by a computer"? :P

Did he really mean by a computer, or on a computer?


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 Post subject: Re: Sex and Ableton Live
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:35 pm 

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not really on a computer, moreso with the aid of a program that is'in' the computer


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 Post subject: Re: Sex and Ableton Live
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:10 pm 

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Computer music in the hands of a musician is just another tool that can enhance music and take it to another level. It is cold, mechanical, and driving... but that's what makes it kick ass.

It's never going to replace real musicians... it's just different.

What makes a song "warm" and "emotional" is the melody and the groove.

You can't cheat that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmCU7svjXg4

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 Post subject: Re: Sex and Ableton Live
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:39 am 

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Enigma, gotten me laid plenty of times :)

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 Post subject: Re: Sex and Ableton Live
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:02 am 

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Clever way to get people to listen to your song. You had me at hello. The drums do sound a bit cold and computerized. You're not trying to hide it so I think it works.

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