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[lo.key]

What do you mean? Are you talking about NI? What damage control over Push...?

he's talking about the huge influx of 'maschine is better' posts which flooded this forum of late.

[blinkeye]

he's talking about the huge influx of 'maschine is better' posts which flooded this forum of late.

I see... So are we talking about some kind of conspiracy concocted by NI to flood this forum?

[lo.key]

no, we're not.

[lo.key]

i suspect its hyperbole brought on by the flood.

[SuburbanThug]

he's talking about the huge influx of 'maschine is better' posts which flooded this forum of late.

I see... So are we talking about some kind of conspiracy concocted by NI to flood this forum?

Conspiracy? I'd call it a guerrilla marketing campaign if anything. If it's not that it's some kind of mild autistic twitch on the part of some forum members. No need to get defensive, bruh

[lo.key]

yeah, exactly. It doesnt need to be a conspiracy to be annoying and transparent ;p

[blinkeye]

Ok... So you're saying NI could have paid people as part of a "guerrilla marketing campaign" because some kind of "damage control" needed to be done about Push?

[SuburbanThug]

Ok... So you're saying NI could have paid people as part of a "guerrilla marketing campaign" because some kind of "damage control" needed to be done about Push?

I think that's a pretty reasonable possibility, yeah.

[SuburbanThug]

Yeah, really surprised they didn't think to implement that on Push but I think it's a limitation of Live itself? Abes should learn from how Maschine does it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdJh4FMNhNE&t=05m20s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsuSiUCek4g&t=52s

Don't mind lo.key too much. He seems to be getting a bit defensive, having taken on a role of being an Ableton/Push apologist, and will lecture you about not being "prepared to do what's necessary to get the most out of your purchase", how he doesn't "understand all of you who just want it to work out of the box", and will question why you bought a "flexible and adaptive audio environment, only to use the default behavior".

Hopefully Ableton is taking notes on how other existing tools have implemented zoom/scroll from the hardware, like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6z1gDGgULA&t=01m21s

Yeah, what a glaring omission of a feature commonly found on many existing tools.

For example, here's how it's done on Maschine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdE60Gr1xII&t=02m30s

You hold down ERASE + PAD (which ever pads you want to erase) will erase notes as you hold them down as the pattern plays through.

If you're wanting to browse presets of NI products like Reaktor from hardware, you may want to take a look at Maschine which has exclusive support for Komplete where all presets from all of Komplete can be browsed and loaded directly from the Maschine hardware and all the parameters are automatically mapped in a logical way (even more improved now with Komplete 9): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcWIW6Muw9U

That's a shame. You don't have to worry about doing anything like that just to play chords on Maschine's pads.

MPC users are disappointed in general by how lacking Akai pads are in comparison to what's available nowdays:

I'm not really feeling how stiff and insensitive the Studio drum pads are. Is there a parameter I can change to increase the sensitivity?

When I had the 2500 I thought the pad response was super sharp until I had it side by side with Maschine with the same kit loaded. As a playable instrument there was no comparison. It was easy to confidently bounce between 1/2 or a 1/3rd of full velocity, ghost notes and rolls were easy to pull off and sounded like a regular drum kit etc. At the same tempo the 2500's pad response sounded clunky.

It's probably not that important to the average hip hopper, but it's one of the few things I like about Maschine.

Maschine's pads are stunning for expressive playing.

Nope, you can't open/close plugin GUIs from Push. You can with Maschine though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSeouoCF92A&t=49s

Yeah, really surprised they didn't think to implement that on Push but I think it's a limitation of Live itself? Abes should learn from how Maschine does it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdJh4FMNhNE&t=05m20s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsuSiUCek4g&t=52s

No doubt. When it comes to sampling workflow, Maschine is a no-brainer. Especially if you've been on hardware like MPCs before, you know just how super fast and fun, hands-on sample chopping workflow can be:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySW7JthAt3E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZFY5oRrY8A&t=01m08s

Here's a little something to help inspire a solution for implementing zoom/scroll on the Push: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6z1gDGgULA&t=01m21s

Here are some examples of what Live cannot do compared equivalent features in Maschine, especially in the context of Push:

- sample into pads from the hardware
- duplicate drum rack pads from the hardware
- access drum rack's sends and mixer from Push
- browse and load audio samples or pattern clips from the hardware
- slice samples from the hardware
- automapping of plugins (Push requires setup beforehand)
- the ability to be mouseless (and even computer screen-less) for pretty much every control of its software
- preview/pre-hear samples in browser from the hardware before loading them
- show things like waveforms on its display since Push's display is only text-based, not graphical.
- add/remove slices from the hardware
- step sequence regular midi tracks from the hardware without workarounds
- edit start/end points for unwarped audio clips
- make multiple selection of notes from the hardware
- step automation (aka step parameter locks/p-locks)
- open/close plugin GUI from the hardware
- open a project or even start a new project from the hardware
- make custom names to show up in the hardware's displays when used as a midi controller
- Push is less useful as a general MIDI controller since it has no editor, you can't change notes, and you can't have MIDI mapping templates
- and obviously, Push doesn't have the Komplete integration like Maschine where all presets can be browsed and loaded from the hardware.
...etc.

These quotes are just from the past six days. If this isn't a salesman, it's someone in true need of psychiatric evaluation.

[blinkeye]

Ok... So you're saying NI could have paid people as part of a "guerrilla marketing campaign" because some kind of "damage control" needed to be done about Push?

I think that's a pretty reasonable possibility, yeah.

Hmm... I've been following the Push vs. Maschine discussion and based on the limitations of Push that's already well covered here and the fact that it can't even do most of what Maschine does, I don't see why NI would think they need to do some kind of "damage control" about Push. I just don't see where the competition is.

[SuburbanThug]

[blinkeye]

[lo.key]

i think its just that we're tired about hearing about another device when discussing the push, in the push subforum. Its a little silly.

[panten]

You can almost set your watch by the regularity of humnumb's retorts.
Eventually you get into the rhythm of it and is reassuring like a mother's heartbeat.

[SuburbanThug]

You can almost set your watch by the regularity of humnumb's retorts.
Eventually you get into the rhythm of it and is reassuring like a mother's heartbeat.