Push - Latency Issues

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mozzatron
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Push - Latency Issues

Post by mozzatron » Mon May 20, 2013 12:53 pm

I've just started working on a new project in Live 9 using Push and i seem to be having some real latency issues. I've literally just started on the track and opened an instance of sylenth up and there's a major delay from when i hit a pad on Push to when i hear the sound in Ableton.

I've checked my buffer size and it's around 5oo ms which is where i normally have it, and i've never had this issue before using Push. I've tried it on a couple of other synths and i'm having the same problem, and i've opened a new set and still have the same problem.

I'm starting to get the shits with Push, i've had nothing but issues since i got it!!!

Anyone had similar issues?

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Re: Push - Latency Issues

Post by catsandwich » Mon May 20, 2013 4:25 pm

Unplug the push and use your keyboard as an input. The delay will still be there. 500ms is half a second BTW. That's a massive delay. I you're talking samples instead of ms, then that's about 10-12ms which should be relatively instant.

No issues with latency using my Push with both external soundcards and the internal mac soundcard.

mozzatron
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Re: Push - Latency Issues

Post by mozzatron » Tue May 21, 2013 4:55 am

Sorry you're right, i meant samples. My latency is 11.5ms which is why i don't understand why all of a sudden there is such a delay?

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Re: Push - Latency Issues

Post by nbinder » Tue May 21, 2013 11:12 pm

a) Does that also happen when using a native Live synth (Operator, Simpler, Sampler....)
b) Have you checked all attack times? All set to 0ms (volume and filter envelopes)?

...just to make sure...

Thom Nagy
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Re: Push - Latency Issues

Post by Thom Nagy » Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:39 pm

mozzatron wrote:Sorry you're right, i meant samples. My latency is 11.5ms which is why i don't understand why all of a sudden there is such a delay?
Same problem here. Have you found a solution yet?

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Re: Push - Latency Issues

Post by fishmonkey » Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:11 am

what other USB devices are you using? and is your Push plugged into a USB hub?

Thom Nagy
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Re: Push - Latency Issues

Post by Thom Nagy » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:21 am

NI Audio 6 plugged directly onto the Macbook, same as Push.

Oh and it started with the update to V 9.1

fishmonkey
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Re: Push - Latency Issues

Post by fishmonkey » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:38 am

did you do the Push firmware update?

Thom Nagy
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Re: Push - Latency Issues

Post by Thom Nagy » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:48 am

the one from about a week ago? yes.

fishmonkey
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Re: Push - Latency Issues

Post by fishmonkey » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:56 am

does it lag with a fresh set, just using onboard audio, i.e. without your Audio 6?

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Re: Push - Latency Issues

Post by Thom Nagy » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:02 am

yes.

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Re: Push - Latency Issues

Post by Thom Nagy » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:36 pm

quick update: the problem has solved itself by accident.

I plugged in my push at another macbook, where it worked as it should (very low latency). after that, it worked fine with my system as well. no idea why though.

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