Push Knob Resolution (Feature Request)
Push Knob Resolution (Feature Request)
Hi,
I want to propose a feature,
if we HOLD Shift OR Select and twist a knob the value increase and decrease in fine steps!
If we PRESS Shift AND Select Push enter in Fine Tune Mode!
Also a question, it's possible to do with Max For Live?
Cheers,
Mauro.
I want to propose a feature,
if we HOLD Shift OR Select and twist a knob the value increase and decrease in fine steps!
If we PRESS Shift AND Select Push enter in Fine Tune Mode!
Also a question, it's possible to do with Max For Live?
Cheers,
Mauro.
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Re: Push Knob Resolution (Feature Request)
+1. I can't stress how essential this is.
Re: Push Knob Resolution (Feature Request)
I spoke to ableton about the resolution, they said it was fixed to 128 values like all other midi controllers are when used with Live.
So don't hold your breath!
So don't hold your breath!
Re: Push Knob Resolution (Feature Request)
thats hardly the point. Midi resolution is not the same thing as encoder resolution.
Re: Push Knob Resolution (Feature Request)
It is the point.
As I said before I asked them this question and the only support is for that resolution, ask them yourself if you want.
As I said before I asked them this question and the only support is for that resolution, ask them yourself if you want.
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Re: Push Knob Resolution (Feature Request)
They're saying when it's mapped to any remote parameter, the full range of that parameter is divided into 128 increments. There is no work around for that without rewriting the way Live handles remote mappings, which would be a ridiculously large-scale undertaking. BUT you could make it so that holding down a button causes it to produce increments faster or slower, that's easy - which would feel like more control and may address some needs. But you're still fundamentally stuck with 128 values.
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Re: Push Knob Resolution (Feature Request)
I've just uploaded a modification to the Push script that allows Shift + the Encoders to finely adjust parameter values (provides 1024 steps of adjustment). Install info is provided in the download.
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Re: Push Knob Resolution (Feature Request)
Ha! Shows what I know.
Re: Push Knob Resolution (Feature Request)
told you ;D
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:O
Holy shit, you'd done it, and ableton isn't able to do that?
Holy shit, you'd done it, and ableton isn't able to do that?
Re: Push Knob Resolution (Feature Request)
its not so much that they cant as that they havent.
Re: Push Knob Resolution (Feature Request)
Well Ableton told me they couldn't, and I quote:
"The first one [my question about knob resolution] is due to the general MIDI data resolution of 128 steps. Also the Push knobs send regular MIDI CC to control parameters, which gives you those 128 steps. If your actual parameter has a smaller resolution, with every (MIDI) data increment/decrement sent in, the parameter changes several steps."
"The first one [my question about knob resolution] is due to the general MIDI data resolution of 128 steps. Also the Push knobs send regular MIDI CC to control parameters, which gives you those 128 steps. If your actual parameter has a smaller resolution, with every (MIDI) data increment/decrement sent in, the parameter changes several steps."
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metastatik wrote:I've just uploaded a modification to the Push script that allows Shift + the Encoders to finely adjust parameter values (provides 1024 steps of adjustment). Install info is provided in the download.
This is brilliant, thanks very much. It makes Push much more useful for me.
Maybe Ableton should pay you to sort out push, you seem to have more knowledge about it than they do!
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Re: Push Knob Resolution (Feature Request)
that is completely missing the point. i don't think people are talking about increasing the overall MIDI resolution, they are talking about how sensitive the knobs are. all it requires is changing how far you need to turn a knob per MIDI value.BobTheDog wrote:Well Ableton told me they couldn't, and I quote:
"The first one [my question about knob resolution] is due to the general MIDI data resolution of 128 steps. Also the Push knobs send regular MIDI CC to control parameters, which gives you those 128 steps. If your actual parameter has a smaller resolution, with every (MIDI) data increment/decrement sent in, the parameter changes several steps."