Why is Ableton Live's transient detection so bad?

[Michael Hatsis]

easy answer...no options to mess w the onset or amount of transients. look at recycle when it wasnt part of reasons ( as i think reason has recycle slicing functionality now ).
how many times would recycle guess the exact way you wanted to slice a file? not to often...

[robleighton22]

was definitely easier in live 7. could stick a whole track (as long as its 4/4) and it would warp perfectly. still unsure of the benefits of the newer transient method from live 8 onwards. so fiddly.

[3dot...]

dude... if you look closely in the pic you've posted...
live detects the transient EXACTLY...(notice the small arrow on the timeline over it)

it has made an (educated) decision to put a warp marker a couple ms after that...
if this bothers you (or doesn't sound right) you can click the small arrow over the transient and it will become a marker...
of course this is only relevant if you're STARTING to play from that transient...

[simpli.cissimus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKvhNJK9AjQ

[Michael Hatsis]

dude... if you look closely in the pic you've posted...
live detects the transient EXACTLY...(notice the small arrow on the timeline over it)

it has made an (educated) decision to put a warp marker a couple ms after that...
if this bothers you (or doesn't sound right) you can click the small arrow over the transient and it will become a marker...
of course this is only relevant if you're STARTING to play from that transient...

haha....thats so true...Live pretty much nailed it there. u should have picked a picture that better supports the argument - as I agree, the transient detection/autowarping could be better.
but like i said, if there were some controls to refine the transient detection, i think it would be easier for ableton to get ideas of what works best in different situations

[Willyum]

no better in 9.1?

Not to me... I'm still correcting the transients quite often.. Aprox 1:8
I would love some kind of sensitivity control, but it would do me no good if Live's not detecting transients properly to begin with.

[keydaking]

From the pic u posted live detected the transient. All you have to do is select that marker as 1.1.
Ppl are getting too lazy. Technology is a gift and curse.