Can I build a quadraphonic (4-channel) panner?

[ZenMusic]

With Max for Live , can I build a automated panning control that will swirl sound around 4 channels?
If so , how do I get started? thanks

[S4racen]

You'll have to use the sends i believe as you only have one set of outputs on each channel... Totally doable if not done already!

Cheers
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[Hielo Patagonia Sounds]

You should look at the [nodes] object. It's a VERY useful one for this kind of project.

H.

[Valiumdupeuple]

You'll find what you need int the "M4L Building Tools" pack ...

[ZenMusic]

thanks for the direction.. any more info. will be appreciated.. I'll begin researching this ...

[Valiumdupeuple]

thanks for the direction.. any more info. will be appreciated.. I'll begin researching this ...

Here you go:
M4l building tools > tools > multichannel

[aradder]

There is a M4L device called "3D Panner" freely available on maxforlive.com's library. I haven't tried it yet but I think it does exactly what you are talking about.

[swishniak]

start with the max api sendsPan effect and put an LFO on it

[oblique strategies]

start with the max api sendsPan effect and put an LFO on it

Alternatively, & as mentioned above, use the Max Api SendsXnodes.

Then experiment with the various LFOs. Map the LFO to the Azimuth parameter.

The LFO.amxd is a good basic device, it's part of Max for Live Essentials/Max Audio Effect/Control Devices. It also has a Re-Trigger button which comes in handy.

Experiment with the Curve control on the SendsPan & SendsXnodes. SendsXnodes has some unique parameters like Expand & Spread.

Envelope followers are also fun to make the signal move through your speakers based on audio signal levels.

There are a number of multi-channel panners available here:
http://maxforlive.com/library/index.php

Flex is an interesting device, somewhere between an LFO & envelope generator:
http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/1838/flex

[swishniak]

there is also an updated LFO (2.1.4 or something) by mr. henke which is very much improved. it has up+down ramps (which if i remember correctly werent in the orig.). these are really good for surround sound movement effects.

[madlab]

The stock LFO and the building tool don't reset their phase properly when starting the transport, which can be a real pain when you want to generate precise paths using two together. I tried Henke's LFO which is pretty smart but the saw up has a flat section at the beginning and end of the waveform and I couldn't get rid of that. Must have missed something...

[oblique strategies]

I tried Henke's LFO which is pretty smart but the saw up has a flat section at the beginning and end of the waveform and I couldn't get rid of that. Must have missed something...

Is this "flat section" what causes the waveforms to pause? I've found that a number of available LFOs Ramp up & Ramp down waveforms have a have either a pause or a bump in the flight path, & won't make a proper contiguous circle for example.

Have you tried this one?
http://maxforlive.com/library/index.php?by=any&q=zb.lfo