Push owners: has Push replaced the keyboard?
Re: Push owners: has Push replaced the keyboard?
Don't forget you can use push in Chromatic mode, you don't have to use a pre-defined scale.
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Re: Push owners: has Push replaced the keyboard?
Spot on. I play differently on the push, so my music is coming out a hit different right now. I'm working in NOT trying to reproduce what I can do on a regular keyboard because I can already play a regular keyboard very well. I can always pull out my SL MK2 and play the intricate parts of a piano line or complex string arrangement. It's coming up with all of the non-muscle memory things with Push that have been inspiring. Into grate that with the ability to switch to the drum rack mode and its definitely been a fun controller to use. Most fun I've had with any controller purchase, hands down.synnack wrote:100% agree. I also play totally different on the grid. It wouldn't replace keys if you are already used to playing on a standard keyboard. But it's great for forcing you to do something different.antarktika wrote:When I play on a gridded controller, I tend to play in completely different ways than I would on a keyboard, more big note jumps and the like, since (at least with Nativekontrol's LPC script on launchpad) they are stacked in a 4x4 block I just tend to play entirely differently. With keyboards I usually do more flowing melodies with less jumping around, so I'll go with no, not a replacement, but a great compliment.
Coupled with Touchable, it's been just wonderful.
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Re: Push owners: has Push replaced the keyboard?
I can imagine that playing faux guitar solo improvs on the Push could be pretty awesome!
Re: Push owners: has Push replaced the keyboard?
Yes it has, which could have to do with Fact that i suck at playing Keys.
but since i own it, i have not touched my Keyboard Controller.
For me, Push is great fun and the best Controller i have owned so far - if i were good at Keys i probably would not bother.
but since i own it, i have not touched my Keyboard Controller.
For me, Push is great fun and the best Controller i have owned so far - if i were good at Keys i probably would not bother.
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Re: Push owners: has Push replaced the keyboard?
I've really enjoyed jamming out melodies with Push, but only in chromatic mode so far. One of the best things about it is if you have a background in guitar playing, then the same patterns between the intervals exist on the rows on Push as strings on a guitar, and they're the same all the way up.
I do have the same complaints about the pads for sustained notes though -- the lack of depth to the pads are great for drums, but not so good for holding chords.
I do love how you can stay on the notes page and keep advancing scenes using the up/down arrows, too.
I do have the same complaints about the pads for sustained notes though -- the lack of depth to the pads are great for drums, but not so good for holding chords.
I do love how you can stay on the notes page and keep advancing scenes using the up/down arrows, too.
Re: Push owners: has Push replaced the keyboard?
I agree, and it's starting to bother me. I think I'm going to exchange this one because I want to "make sure" but w/o changing the settings, they are a bit tough. What's helped me is when holding down chords is to gentle "push" (no pun intended) the pads down and they hold better as opposed to the playing style I would use with keys.
But for a non-keyboardist like me it is fun to use.
But for a non-keyboardist like me it is fun to use.
Re: Push owners: has Push replaced the keyboard?
Besides my minimoog, push is hands down my favorite piece of equipment in my studio. I have a tendency of digging too deep with the mouse/keyboard sometimes and this has allowed me to back away and really feel what I'm doing. I personally have played many instruments growing up but never learned the piano. I do a lot of work with remixing so for me knowing a key of a track, and boom im instantly there in key. This will become a lot of fun in the future for live performers.
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Re: Push owners: has Push replaced the keyboard?
Shit out of luck trying to try one out in the shop; the demand is too big for them to keep a demo unit.
Re: Push owners: has Push replaced the keyboard?
You should go to a live show or ask a local artist when they are playing next. There must be a community of people who own them if they are in such high demand where you live! I wouldn't say no to anyone wanting to learn more about production and wanted to check out equipment that I own. I personally watched all the videos about PUSH on Ableton.com and bought one literally the next day.sporkles wrote:Shit out of luck trying to try one out in the shop; the demand is too big for them to keep a demo unit.
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Re: Push owners: has Push replaced the keyboard?
eyeknow wrote:I have a pretty light touch and I'm noticing that the note/off happens a little too easily vs my impulse which the light touch stays consistent. This might be because I have it set to default, or maybe I have a questionable controller?
csl wrote:I do have the same complaints about the pads for sustained notes though -- the lack of depth to the pads are great for drums, but not so good for holding chords.
I don't own Push, but I could tell that it seems to be an issue just from all the videos that I have seen. Did you think a foot pedal would make a difference?
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Re: Push owners: has Push replaced the keyboard?
I don't even own/use a keyboard. Push works out a lot better for me and takes up so much less space
I don't 'produce.' I write music.
Re: Push owners: has Push replaced the keyboard?
The space concern is actually a very good argument for the Push.
I got to try one today; went to a different store and sat down to play with it for about 45 minutes. At 30 minutes, I caught myself thinking "there's no way I'm walking out of here without a Push" (no pun intended). But then I started mulling things over a bit, and realised I WANTED a Push, but that I don't NEED a Push.
I walked out of the store empty-handed, but I'm sort of glad. On my way out, I tapped around on a MiniBrute, and I thought "I'm actually fine with keys". I'm not saying I won't ever get a Push, because I really loved playing around with it, and it felt really intuitive and very well suited to my way of playing melodies.
At this point, I think the ideal setup for me would be two 25-key keyboard controllers stacked "depthwise", so that I can have my mouse next to them. My 61-key Axiom is simply too big for my use.
I got to try one today; went to a different store and sat down to play with it for about 45 minutes. At 30 minutes, I caught myself thinking "there's no way I'm walking out of here without a Push" (no pun intended). But then I started mulling things over a bit, and realised I WANTED a Push, but that I don't NEED a Push.
I walked out of the store empty-handed, but I'm sort of glad. On my way out, I tapped around on a MiniBrute, and I thought "I'm actually fine with keys". I'm not saying I won't ever get a Push, because I really loved playing around with it, and it felt really intuitive and very well suited to my way of playing melodies.
At this point, I think the ideal setup for me would be two 25-key keyboard controllers stacked "depthwise", so that I can have my mouse next to them. My 61-key Axiom is simply too big for my use.
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Re: Push owners: has Push replaced the keyboard?
Nope, far too many features missing in Push. Using some of the 3rd party scripts gets you closer, but I still need to use my mouse/keyboard for anything besides simple jamming.
Re: Push owners: has Push replaced the keyboard?
Just to clarify: I was referring to MIDI keyboards, not computer keyboardsmarcoskohler wrote:Nope, far too many features missing in Push. Using some of the 3rd party scripts gets you closer, but I still need to use my mouse/keyboard for anything besides simple jamming.
I don't think a single controller can completely remove the need for a mouse/keyboard, and I don't think anyone had any illusions that Push would, either.
Re: Push owners: has Push replaced the keyboard?
Well... Golly-gee! I went back to the shop today and picked one up; so far, I'm having PURE fun with this thing. It's fantastic!