maybe it's because of the 32 bit plug-in issue...Machinesworking wrote: I'm not sure why Ableton are ambivalent about it?
Made the jump to 64-bit.. Aaand nothing changed.
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Good point.fishmonkey wrote:maybe it's because of the 32 bit plug-in issue...Machinesworking wrote: I'm not sure why Ableton are ambivalent about it?
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sure you can... you just have to _also_ run the explorer window as administrator. i use explorer++ with it set to default to run as admin (so my normal explorer windows aren't changed) and it works fine.Donnie wrote:I see much better stability with larger projects. The tradeoff is that I can't drag and drop files into live due to running 'as Administrator' in order to accommodate jBridge. I think it's a worthwhile tradeoff.
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If you are right about this I will love you forever. I have been searching for months for a fix, and Ableton support just kept telling me to install codec packs (which, naturally, I had already installed). This makes sense though (finally) and I can't wait to give it a shot.theophilus wrote:sure you can... you just have to _also_ run the explorer window as administrator. i use explorer++ with it set to default to run as admin (so my normal explorer windows aren't changed) and it works fine.Donnie wrote:I see much better stability with larger projects. The tradeoff is that I can't drag and drop files into live due to running 'as Administrator' in order to accommodate jBridge. I think it's a worthwhile tradeoff.
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Re: Made the jump to 64-bit.. Aaand nothing changed.
What were you expecting, other than being able to access more RAM? And why?TheNobleNemesis wrote:..Except for the loading screen that is.
I've barely noticed any difference at all.
Since I'd read that there was potential for 64-bit to perform better (at least on Windows), I did some benchmarking between 32-bit and 64-bit Live 9 last year. I watched system metrics and recorded different things like project and app load times. I used some large-ish projects where all plugins used had both 32-bit and 64-bit versions installed (so they would load equivalently on each version of the DAW).
I found that when I went 64-bit all the way, both Live 9 launch and project load times were 9% faster, on average.
The total RAM used by Live and any loaded projects was 20% more on 64-bit than 32-bit (but, Live does give you access to more RAM overall). I don't know why this is; perhaps 64-bit binaries simply have a larger RAM footprint?
When projects were playing, the actual impact on the CPU was around 7% lower when running 64-bit all the way, although Live's CPU Load meter reported pretty much the exact same numbers for both 32-bit and 64-bit.
So, on Windows, slightly more RAM consumption (but much more potential RAM utilization), slightly faster load times, and no noticeable effect on actual DAW performance.
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Freaking awesome! Thank you very much, good Sir! Not being able to drag'n'drop has annoyed me for months lol, I actually thought Abe had removed the feature to force us to use the new browser.theophilus wrote:sure you can... you just have to _also_ run the explorer window as administrator. i use explorer++ with it set to default to run as admin (so my normal explorer windows aren't changed) and it works fine.Donnie wrote:I see much better stability with larger projects. The tradeoff is that I can't drag and drop files into live due to running 'as Administrator' in order to accommodate jBridge. I think it's a worthwhile tradeoff.
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Re: Made the jump to 64-bit.. Aaand nothing changed.
This is about the same on OSX, slightly more CPU available, slightly more RAM used.UltimateOutsider wrote: Since I'd read that there was potential for 64-bit to perform better (at least on Windows), I did some benchmarking between 32-bit and 64-bit Live 9 last year. I watched system metrics and recorded different things like project and app load times. I used some large-ish projects where all plugins used had both 32-bit and 64-bit versions installed (so they would load equivalently on each version of the DAW).
I found that when I went 64-bit all the way, both Live 9 launch and project load times were 9% faster, on average.
The total RAM used by Live and any loaded projects was 20% more on 64-bit than 32-bit (but, Live does give you access to more RAM overall). I don't know why this is; perhaps 64-bit binaries simply have a larger RAM footprint?
When projects were playing, the actual impact on the CPU was around 7% lower when running 64-bit all the way, although Live's CPU Load meter reported pretty much the exact same numbers for both 32-bit and 64-bit.
So, on Windows, slightly more RAM consumption (but much more potential RAM utilization), slightly faster load times, and no noticeable effect on actual DAW performance.
Re: Made the jump to 64-bit.. Aaand nothing changed.
Interesting. Thank you.UltimateOutsider wrote: Since I'd read that there was potential for 64-bit to perform better (at least on Windows), I did some benchmarking between 32-bit and 64-bit Live 9 last year.
Am I the only one that experience significantly lower latency in 64bit? Perhaps if you have a faster machine — I only have a 2.2ghz merom Core2Duo — latency is already low?
In 32 bit Live I must use 2048 samples, in 64bit I can use as low as 64 samples.
Of course, my inferior NI Audio 2 mk2, could be a really bad influence on latency. I must get myself a real audio card soon.
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