New Korg Electribe
Re: New Korg Electribe
Does the electribe export to live 8, or just live 9?
Re: New Korg Electribe
Pretty sure it's Live 8 compatible, I don't have that installed to test for sure though.
tarekith
https://tarekith.com
https://tarekith.com
Re: New Korg Electribe
Hope so. The upgrade to live 9 never really appealed
Re: New Korg Electribe
I'll do something like that once I actually have some better music to perform, this was literally a last minute recording with some so so half assed songsTomViolenz wrote:Very nice review Tarekith
I think your set playing could have been even more informative if the text overlay you used once would have indicated what your tweaking does.
But overall very usefull!
tarekith
https://tarekith.com
https://tarekith.com
-
- Posts: 6854
- Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:19 pm
Re: New Korg Electribe
it was great as it was, but that would make it close to a perfect reviewTarekith wrote:I'll do something like that once I actually have some better music to perform, this was literally a last minute recording with some so so half assed songsTomViolenz wrote:Very nice review Tarekith
I think your set playing could have been even more informative if the text overlay you used once would have indicated what your tweaking does.
But overall very usefull!
Re: New Korg Electribe
When i used electribe sx with Ableton, it had timing problems (i don't know tecnical term)
like this:
if Ableton is master and electribe is slave, i hit play on ableton (120 bpm) and electribe is: 110>112>115>118>122>119>121>119.95...
These two never could run intact 120-120. Slave one is always 119.95-120.30 something..
I don't know if this was Ableton, electribe or soundcard problem. But i remember i read other people had same issues, too.
Does new electribe run 120-120 perfect with Ableton?
like this:
if Ableton is master and electribe is slave, i hit play on ableton (120 bpm) and electribe is: 110>112>115>118>122>119>121>119.95...
These two never could run intact 120-120. Slave one is always 119.95-120.30 something..
I don't know if this was Ableton, electribe or soundcard problem. But i remember i read other people had same issues, too.
Does new electribe run 120-120 perfect with Ableton?
-
- Posts: 440
- Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:26 pm
Re: New Korg Electribe
Without a doubt the most in-depth and balanced review so far. Thanks for sharing!Tarekith wrote:Just posted my video review of the electribe for those interested in learning more about it:
http://youtu.be/KF9DK2eQOdw
I haven't spent enough time to have a final opinon on this topic, but what I can say so far, is, that if you sync the e2 as slave to Live, the synchronization seems pretty tight. On the other hand, when you set the e2 as master, syncing is much less tight, especially when you change BPM.alpertt wrote:When i used electribe sx with Ableton, it had timing problems (i don't know tecnical term)
like this:
if Ableton is master and electribe is slave, i hit play on ableton (120 bpm) and electribe is: 110>112>115>118>122>119>121>119.95...
These two never could run intact 120-120. Slave one is always 119.95-120.30 something..
I don't know if this was Ableton, electribe or soundcard problem. But i remember i read other people had same issues, too.
Does new electribe run 120-120 perfect with Ableton?
What is worring me when syncing the e2 as slave to Live, is, that I had to adjust the MIDI clock latency in preferences two or three times when it wasn't clear to me what was introduced into the set that could cause the need for a latency change. But maybe that's just me beeing a noob in syncing external gear. I guess time will tell how consistent you can get like this.
Can someone confirm, that if you use the menu shortcuts (Shift + trigger pad) when in Part Mute mode, the shortcut will work, but the according part gets muted/unmuted? That seems like a bug to me.
Live 9.5 (64bit), Max 7.0.6, Windows 10, Push 2, Korg electribe2, Bass Station II, Launch Control XL, Faderfox DJ3
M4L
M4L
-
- Posts: 6854
- Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:19 pm
Re: New Korg Electribe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRWc6QWhYdA
Not an independent review, but a nice presentation from Korg going into quite a few details. It also nicely shows off the workflow for those of us (like me) who are not in the know about older Electribes.
Some interesting infos from the video:
-Apparently the patterns are all Midi and can be used to drive external gear. So I think it should also be possible to save the patterns in Live as Midi clips (with automation?!) and maybe control other softsynth. Can anyone confirm that?
-He mentiones at the end that the Sampler version will indeed be able to sample from external sources. So for a looper kind of workflow the question will only be how tight the switch from recording into the device to looped playback from the device will be and how long each recording can be. (16 Bars should be ideal and 4 Bars would be about my absolute usable minimum)
I also really hope that they will somehow open up the SD memory to be used as storage for this purpose.
ETA for the Sampler sometime in February he says.
I'm definetely exited and I think I will sell Push to finance that. (Sorry Ableton, you had plenty of time to advance the software side of it, but you chose to do nothing instead )
Not an independent review, but a nice presentation from Korg going into quite a few details. It also nicely shows off the workflow for those of us (like me) who are not in the know about older Electribes.
Some interesting infos from the video:
-Apparently the patterns are all Midi and can be used to drive external gear. So I think it should also be possible to save the patterns in Live as Midi clips (with automation?!) and maybe control other softsynth. Can anyone confirm that?
-He mentiones at the end that the Sampler version will indeed be able to sample from external sources. So for a looper kind of workflow the question will only be how tight the switch from recording into the device to looped playback from the device will be and how long each recording can be. (16 Bars should be ideal and 4 Bars would be about my absolute usable minimum)
I also really hope that they will somehow open up the SD memory to be used as storage for this purpose.
ETA for the Sampler sometime in February he says.
I'm definetely exited and I think I will sell Push to finance that. (Sorry Ableton, you had plenty of time to advance the software side of it, but you chose to do nothing instead )
-
- Posts: 440
- Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:26 pm
Re: New Korg Electribe
I guess you are familiar with the possibility to export a pattern as a Live set to the SD card and then import it on your computer (it's not (yet) possible via USB connection). In addition to that you can catch the e2s MIDI data in Live to sequence a soft synth. Every part sends its data on its own channel (1-16). Most of the knobs send MIDI data as well, so you could map them to the a soft synth.TomViolenz wrote: -Apparently the patterns are all Midi and can be used to drive external gear. So I think it should also be possible to save the patterns in Live as Midi clips (with automation?!) and maybe control other softsynth. Can anyone confirm that?
Live 9.5 (64bit), Max 7.0.6, Windows 10, Push 2, Korg electribe2, Bass Station II, Launch Control XL, Faderfox DJ3
M4L
M4L
-
- Posts: 2838
- Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:27 pm
- Location: UK
- Contact:
Re: New Korg Electribe
been thinking the exact same thing. just need to see the Sampler in action and if all's good, i'm sold. and so is the Push.TomViolenz wrote:ETA for the Sampler sometime in February he says.
I'm definetely exited and I think I will sell Push to finance that. (Sorry Ableton, you had plenty of time to advance the software side of it, but you chose to do nothing instead )
Re: New Korg Electribe
New video showing some MIDI Sync timing tests:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ0YBj5 ... e=youtu.be
And yes, there is a bug with menu shortcuts in Mute mode, a fix is coming soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ0YBj5 ... e=youtu.be
And yes, there is a bug with menu shortcuts in Mute mode, a fix is coming soon.
tarekith
https://tarekith.com
https://tarekith.com
-
- Posts: 440
- Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:26 pm
Re: New Korg Electribe
Good to see you came to a similar conclusion regarding sync timing. When testing Live as master and e2 as slave, what were your MIDI Clock Sync Delay and Buffer settings in preferences?
A question regarding the "Audio In" oscillator: as far as I can see there are two possibilities to play the part with the external audio source. Either you use the step sequencer as kind of a gate sequencer, i.e every selected step opens the gate and the audio gets through. Or you record one long note over your whole pattern to get an audio stream which is only affected by filter, modulation, IFX and MFX.
While the first possibility is fun and can deliver interesting results, sometimes I would love to get the audio unaltered by the sequencer. But the problem with the second approach is, that you get an audio drop out when the pattern switches to the first bar (because there's a note off message at the end of a pattern and a note on message at the beginning of the first bar). Is there a way to overcome this audio hiccup I missed so far (besides messing around with MFX or IFX)?
Edit: Ted3000 from korgforums.com provided a workaround:
Enter 16 notes per bar in Sequencer mode, then enter Step Edit, go to the note length page, turn all 16 durations all the way up to Tie.
A question regarding the "Audio In" oscillator: as far as I can see there are two possibilities to play the part with the external audio source. Either you use the step sequencer as kind of a gate sequencer, i.e every selected step opens the gate and the audio gets through. Or you record one long note over your whole pattern to get an audio stream which is only affected by filter, modulation, IFX and MFX.
While the first possibility is fun and can deliver interesting results, sometimes I would love to get the audio unaltered by the sequencer. But the problem with the second approach is, that you get an audio drop out when the pattern switches to the first bar (because there's a note off message at the end of a pattern and a note on message at the beginning of the first bar). Is there a way to overcome this audio hiccup I missed so far (besides messing around with MFX or IFX)?
Edit: Ted3000 from korgforums.com provided a workaround:
Enter 16 notes per bar in Sequencer mode, then enter Step Edit, go to the note length page, turn all 16 durations all the way up to Tie.
Last edited by Because789 on Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Live 9.5 (64bit), Max 7.0.6, Windows 10, Push 2, Korg electribe2, Bass Station II, Launch Control XL, Faderfox DJ3
M4L
M4L
Re: New Korg Electribe
Buffer at 256 samples, Sync Delay at whatever the default is, I never mess with that.Because789 wrote:Good to see you came to a similar conclusion regarding sync timing. When testing Live as master and e2 as slave, what were your MIDI Clock Sync Delay and Buffer settings in preferences?
Is there a way to overcome this audio hickup I missed so far (besides messing around with MFX or IFX)?
No idea on your second question, I haven't tried that yet.
tarekith
https://tarekith.com
https://tarekith.com
-
- Posts: 440
- Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:26 pm
Re: New Korg Electribe
Interesting. I just tested it in an empty set at 128 samples and I had to set the Sync Delay to about -40ms to sync the beats perfectly as in your video. It seems I have to blame my audio interface.Tarekith wrote:Buffer at 256 samples, Sync Delay at whatever the default is, I never mess with that.
Live 9.5 (64bit), Max 7.0.6, Windows 10, Push 2, Korg electribe2, Bass Station II, Launch Control XL, Faderfox DJ3
M4L
M4L
Re: New Korg Electribe
Keep in mind I wasn't using an interface, direct usb to the electribe.
tarekith
https://tarekith.com
https://tarekith.com