enveloppe sending midi cc

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DukePack
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enveloppe sending midi cc

Post by DukePack » Fri May 01, 2015 1:18 pm

Hi all,

Imagine I have a volume envelope on a dummy track and I want that envelope to send midi cc.
Is that possible?

Thank you,

Duke P

snakedogman
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Re: enveloppe sending midi cc

Post by snakedogman » Fri May 01, 2015 6:47 pm

You mean a clip envelope or an automation (arrangement page) envelope? The latter can't normally send midi cc but there are max4live devices that give this option. A clip envelope should be able to send midi cc's.

DukePack
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Re: enveloppe sending midi cc

Post by DukePack » Fri May 01, 2015 7:19 pm

Yeah I meant an automation enveloppe in arrangement view.

Any clue how it can be done in M4L would be much appreciated. ;)

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Re: enveloppe sending midi cc

Post by yur2die4 » Fri May 01, 2015 7:57 pm

Have you tried to midi assign that device to that volume parameter? In theory, if you assign cc7 ch3 to the volume fader of Live's channel, you'll both be able to control that slider using your midi device, but also, anytime that slider moves it'll send out to midi cc7 ch3 back to that device. So whenever you automate the control, it'll also send that to the device.

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Re: enveloppe sending midi cc

Post by doubleUG » Fri May 01, 2015 8:06 pm

<pre><code>
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</code></pre>
copy the text, open Live > drag in empty M4L device > open Max editor > paste > save M4L device
https://docs.cycling74.com/max8/vignett ... ng_patches

https://doubleUG.bandcamp.com/releases

DukePack
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Re: enveloppe sending midi cc

Post by DukePack » Sat May 02, 2015 10:03 am

OK. It's working. Thanx.

Except while playing unconsciously with the patch's Ctrl number, I have sent midi data all over my 168RC Korg mixer.
It's a bloody in the BUs routing inside.

doubleUG
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Re: enveloppe sending midi cc

Post by doubleUG » Sat May 02, 2015 12:26 pm

I have change the patch.
Now there should be no output when changing the Ctrl-Number.


<pre><code>
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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>
copy the text, open Live > drag in empty M4L device > open Max editor > paste > save M4L device
https://docs.cycling74.com/max8/vignett ... ng_patches

https://doubleUG.bandcamp.com/releases

DukePack
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Re: enveloppe sending midi cc

Post by DukePack » Sat May 02, 2015 6:27 pm

Super, I've learnt something with that max join object too.

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Re: enveloppe sending midi cc

Post by snakedogman » Sun May 03, 2015 10:28 am

The Max for Live device I use is made by Robert Henke and is called Control Change 8. You can get it from this page:
http://roberthenke.com/technology/m4l.html
Very handy.

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